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For instructions on how to nominate an article, see Template:DYK nomination header § Instructions for nominators.
"Template:Did you know nominations" redirects here. For the list of approved nominations, see Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

This page is to nominate fresh articles to appear in the "Did you know" section on the Main Page with a "hook" (an interesting note). Nominations that have been approved are moved to a staging area and then promoted into the Queue. To update this page, purge it.

Count of DYK Hooks
Section # of Hooks # Verified
December 1 2
December 2 1
December 13 2
December 16 1
December 21 1
December 25 1
December 26
December 27 1
December 28 1
December 29 1
December 30 1
January 1 1
January 2 2
January 3 3
January 5 2
January 6 8 3
January 7 1 1
January 8 11 8
January 9 17 14
January 10 14 9
January 11 10 8
January 12 20 16
January 13 5 3
January 14 9 6
January 15 10 6
January 16 7 4
January 17 8 7
January 18 11 7
January 19 14 10
January 20 12 8
January 21 16 9
January 22 17 10
January 23 13 8
January 24 4 1
January 25 9
January 26 7
January 27 2
January 28 14
January 29 1
January 30 4
Total 264 138
Last updated 16:44, 30 January 2025 UTC
Current time is 21:14, 30 January 2025 UTC [refresh]

Instructions for nominators

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If this is your first nomination, please read the DYK rules before continuing. Further information can be found at the DYK guidelines.

Nominate an article

Frequently asked questions

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How do I write an interesting hook?

Successful hooks tend to have several traits. Most importantly, they share a surprising or intriguing fact. They give readers enough context to understand the hook, but leave enough out to make them want to learn more. They are written for a general audience who has no prior knowledge of or interest in the topic area. Lastly, they are concise, and do not attempt to cover multiple facts or present information about the subject beyond what's needed to understand the hook.

When will my nomination be reviewed?

This page is often backlogged. As long as your submission is still on the page, it will stay there until an editor reviews it. Since editors are encouraged to review the oldest submissions first, it may take several weeks until your submission is reviewed. In the meantime, please consider reviewing another submission (not your own) to help reduce the backlog (see instructions below). Because of WP:DYKTIMEOUT, a nomination should be reviewed within two months since the reviewer/promoter may agree to reject and close an unpromoted hook after that time has passed.

Where is my hook?

If you can't find the nomination you submitted to this nominations page, it may have been approved and is on the approved nominations page waiting to be promoted. It could also have been added to one of the prep areas, promoted from prep to a queue, or is on the main page.

If the nominated hook is in none of those places, then the nomination has probably been rejected. Such a rejection usually only occurs if it was at least a couple of weeks old and had unresolved issues for which any discussion had gone stale. If you think your nomination was unfairly rejected, you can query this on the DYK discussion page, but as a general rule such nominations will only be restored in exceptional circumstances.


Instructions for reviewers

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Main page: Wikipedia:Did you know/Reviewing guide

Any editor who was not involved in writing/expanding or nominating an article may review it by checking to see that the article meets all the DYK criteria (long enough, new enough, no serious editorial or content issues) and the hook is cited. Editors may also alter the suggested hook to improve it, suggest new hooks, or even lend a hand and make edits to the article to which the hook applies so that the hook is supported and accurate. For a more detailed discussion of the DYK rules and review process see the supplementary guidelines and the WP:Did you know/Reviewing guide.

To post a comment or review on a DYK nomination, follow the steps outlined below:

  • Look through this page, Template talk:Did you know, to find a nomination you would like to comment on.
  • Click the "Review or comment" link at the top of the nomination. You will be taken to the nomination subpage.
  • The top of the page includes a list of the DYK criteria. Check the article to ensure it meets all the relevant criteria.
  • To indicate the result of the review (i.e., whether the nomination passes, fails, or needs some minor changes), leave a signed comment on the page. Please begin with one of the 5 review symbols that appear at the top of the edit screen, and then indicate all aspects of the article that you have reviewed; your comment should look something like the following:

    Article length and age are fine, no copyvio or plagiarism concerns, reliable sources are used. But the hook needs to be shortened.

    If you are the first person to comment on the nomination, there will be a line :* <!-- REPLACE THIS LINE TO WRITE FIRST COMMENT, KEEPING  :* --> showing you where you should put the comment.
  • Save the page.
  • After the nomination is approved, a bot will automatically list the nomination page on Template talk:Did you know/Approved.

If there is any problem or concern about a nomination, please consider notifying the nominator by placing {{subst:DYKproblem|Article|header=yes|sig=yes}} on the nominator's talk page.

Advanced procedures

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How to promote an accepted hook

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At-a-glance instructions on how to promote an approved hook to a prep area
Check list for nomination review completeness
  1. Select a hook from the approved nominations page that has one of these ticks at the bottom post: .
  2. Check to make sure basic review requirements were completed.
    • Any outstanding issue following needs to be addressed before promoting.
  3. Check the article history for any substantive changes since it was nominated or reviewed.
  4. Images for the lead slot must be freely licensed. Fair-use images are not permitted. Images loaded on Commons that appear on the Main Page are automatically protected by KrinkleBot.
  5. Hook must be stated in both the article and source (which must be cited at the end of the article sentence where stated).
  6. Hook should make sense grammatically.
  7. Try to vary subject matters within each prep area.
  8. Try to select a funny, quirky or otherwise upbeat hook for the last or bottom hook in the set.
Steps to add a hook to prep
  • In one tab, open the nomination page of the hook you want to promote.
  • In a second tab, open the prep set you intend to add the hook to.

Wanna skip all this fuss? Install WP:PSHAW instead! Does most of the heavy lifting for ya :)

  1. For hooks held for specific dates, refer to "Local update times" section on DYK Queue.
    • Completed Prep area number sets will be promoted by an administrator to corresponding Queue number.
  2. Copy and paste the hook into a chosen slot.
    • Make sure there's a space between ... and that, and a ? at the end.
    • Check that there's a bold link to the article.
  3. If it's the lead (first) hook, paste the image where indicated at the top of the template.
  4. Copy and paste ALL the credit information (the {{DYKmake}} and {{DYKnom}} templates) at the bottom
  5. Check your work in the prep's Preview mode.
    • At the bottom under "Credits", to the right of each article should have the link "View nom subpage" ; if not, a subpage parameter will need to be added to the DYKmake.
  6. Save the Prep page.
Closing the DYK nomination page
  1. At the upper left
    • Change {{DYKsubpage to {{subst:DYKsubpage
    • Change |passed= to |passed=yes
  2. At the bottom
    • Just above the line containing

      }}<!--Please do not write below this line or remove this line. Place comments above this line.-->

      insert a new, separate line containing one of the following:
      To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
      To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]
    • Also paste the same thing into the edit summary.
  3. Check in Preview mode. Make sure everything is against a pale blue background (nothing outside) and there are no stray characters, like }}, at the top or bottom.
  4. Save.

For more information, please see T:TDYK#How to promote an accepted hook.

Handy copy sources:

  • To [[TM:DYK/P1|Prep 1]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P2|Prep 2]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P3|Prep 3]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P4|Prep 4]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P5|Prep 5]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P6|Prep 6]]
  • To [[TM:DYK/P7|Prep 7]]

How to remove a rejected hook

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  • Open the DYK nomination subpage of the hook you would like to remove. (It's best to wait several days after a reviewer has rejected the hook, just in case someone contests or the article undergoes a large change.)
  • In the window where the DYK nomination subpage is open, replace the line {{DYKsubpage with {{subst:DYKsubpage, and replace |passed= with |passed=no. Then save the page. This has the effect of wrapping up the discussion on the DYK nomination subpage in a blue archive box and stating that the nomination was unsuccessful, as well as adding the nomination to a category for archival purposes.

How to remove a hook from the prep areas or queue

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  • Edit the prep area or queue where the hook is and remove the hook and the credits associated with it.
  • Go to the hook's nomination subpage (there should have been a link to it in the credits section).
    • View the edit history for that page
    • Go back to the last version before the edit where the hook was promoted, and revert to that version to make the nomination active again.
    • Add a new icon on the nomination subpage to cancel the previous tick and leave a comment after it explaining that the hook was removed from the prep area or queue, and why, so that later reviewers are aware of this issue.
  • Add a transclusion of the template back to this page so that reviewers can see it. It goes under the date that it was first created/expanded/listed as a GA. You may need to add back the day header for that date if it had been removed from this page.
  • If you removed the hook from a queue, it is best to either replace it with another hook from one of the prep areas, or to leave a message at WT:DYK asking someone else to do so.

How to move a nomination subpage to a new name

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  • Don't; it should not ever be necessary, and will break some links which will later need to be repaired. Even if you change the title of the article, you don't need to move the nomination page.

Nominations

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Older nominations

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Articles created/expanded on December 1

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Qvadriga

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Created by Hahnchen (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

hahnchen 00:04, 6 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

@Hahnchen: hasn't edited in over a month. I think we're through here unless @Moondragon21: or anybody else wants to bail this out.--Launchballer 02:38, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: it would be a shame if this nomination was lost. That said I think the strongest hook is probably ALT1. Moondragon21 (talk) 15:07, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't find it interesting though. Aside from the fact that it's dependent on knowing what Rock Paper Shotgun is, something's always going to have been hailed as the best.--Launchballer 15:20, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT0 was fine to begin with (The oddness of a board game (generally associated with slow, turn-based play) inspiring a racing game (generally associated with speed and reflexes) was enough to get me to read the whole article and every cited source, despite the serious slog created by advertisements), as were the other ALTs. (a turn-based tactics game was declared a "best racing game"? What is going on? And cue reading.) I'd like to think DYK's target audience is expected to be at least mildly amenable to adventurousness. We can hope to tease the curious reader and shouldn't expect to throttle and take hostage everyone who so much as glances at the main page.
    @Moondragon21: I'm happy to help with this nomination. If you adopt the nomination, I will review it. Or I can adopt the nomination, so you can review it. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 09:26, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @Hydrangeans: Thanks for the offer, I am fine for you to adopt it and I can review it :) Moondragon21 (talk) 17:27, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Moondragon21: Then consider it adopted, and you may review. If further revisions are necessary, let me know. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 19:04, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Hydrangeans: thanks. Moondragon21 (talk) 19:06, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tellus (app)

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Created by Red-tailed hawk (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 24 past nominations.

— Red-tailed hawk (nest) 06:38, 1 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is not a review but rather than a comment, but ALT0 and ALT3 will probably have to be rejected due to both WP:DYKINT concerns (reliance on specialist terms that may not be easily understood by non-financial savvy readers, especially outside the US) and for also sounding rather promotional. ALT2 might be the only suitable option at this point. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
    I understand how one could read Alt0 to be promotional (though I disagree and don’t see why non-insured demand deposit accounts are appealing but for their higher rates, which isn’t in the hook). But I’m really not sure how Alt3 could be seen that way—it’s highlighting that they don't purport to offer mortgage-backed securities even though they make what appears (to at least some professors cited in the body) be some sort of securitized loan offering without registration. That being said, I do take your point that people who don’t know much about managing their finances through investment could find these two hooks’ nuances hard to understand.
    Separately, I had been considering a book about the mysterious non-existent partnerships with banks that are mentioned in the article and were the subject of Senate scrutiny, but I couldn’t figure out a way to write it concisely in hook form without oversimplifying. I’ll take a crack at that over the next couple days with a clear head. — Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 16:10, 2 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]


General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Thank you for this carefully-detailed article about financial wheeler-dealing. Contrary to above comments, it would seem to me that any intelligent person can smell he stink emanating from that dodgy company, no matter what country they are in. So well done for alerting us to it, and well done for writing hooks which may guide readers to take a good look at the article. I could tell from the hooks alone that there was something very unsafe about the company's handliing of money, so I would certainly not take the hooks as obscure or uninteresting.

Good to go, with a preference for ALT3, even though it has 199 characters (i.e. close to the max of 200). Please do not prune ALT3, because this kind of financial detail is important and should not be messed about with. Thank you. Storye book (talk) 13:58, 10 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Red-tailed hawk, am I right to read "and is not FIDC-insured" as only indirectly relevant to the rest of the hook? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:58, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@AirshipJungleman29: I am going to give a long-winded answer for posterity’s sake, but the short answer is that it is directly relevant.
The way that the fractional-reserve banking systems works (in a very simplified way) is that banks receive deposits from customers and pool those funds to make loans, while keeping only a minimal small fraction of deposits as actual cash on hand. Banks receive interest payments from the loans they have made, and in turn provide customers with interest in their deposit accounts. In the U.S., banks are required to be FDIC insured—this keeps confidence in banks and prevents a bank run.
Tellus, however, is not a licensed bank. As such, it doesn’t answer to the banking regulators. It also doesn’t hold FDIC insurance, as non-bank financial firms aren’t eligible for it.
There is another to pool money from several individuals in order to issue a loan—securitization. In the mortgage industry, it is common for mortgage issuers to sell mortgages to other banks and Qualified institutional buyers, who would collect the interest in the long run. A mortgage-backed security is a financial instrument that is backed by these sorts of mortgages (alone or pooled with others); the security is broken into shares which are then distributed to other parties. Unregistered securities exist, and can even be sold between third-party banks and other QIBs under SEC rule 144A, but the big rule is that you can’t sell them to ordinary people because.
The way that Tellus boost/reserve works (based on their January 2023 Boost ToS) is that deposits are general obligation debts of Tellus to its account holders, and represents only a debt from Tellus to the account holders. Tellus says that the cash accounts are not mortgage-backed securities because they are not; in fact, they’re backed only by Tellus’s future income as a firm—there is no specific asset backing them.
So, you’ve got something here that they say is not a mortgage-backed security. And they also aren’t claiming that it’s a demand deposit backed by a specific asset, while also claiming in advertising that one can withdraw money (for boost accounts) whenever one would like. So one’s left with concluding that that they’re essentially securing private, apparently callable (in advertising but not in the actual customer agreement), interest-bearing debt financing to themselves from a set of people that apparently includes non-accredited investors. And the company is using that money (based on public statements) for commercial lending of its own.
So, yes, the FDIC part matters, since it indicates that the firm is not acting like a bank would. And the MBS part matters, as it indicates that there is no specific asset backing the deposits. It’s its own thing, and it’s a unique and unusual model for a consumer-facing business’s finance arm.
— Red-tailed sock (Red-tailed hawk's nest) 17:19, 16 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook has been pulled from Prep owing to concerns about the original hook (which is now struck). Per the discussion at WT:DYK, there are two possible options: ALT2, and a hook proposed by RoySmith (labeled as ALT4 here):
  • ALT2: ... that California-based startup Tellus pivoted from being a property management app to a consumer-facing financial services company?
  • ALT4 ... that while Tellus uses non-FDIC insured consumer deposits to make real-estate loans, it states that it does not offer mortgage-backed securities?
While one editor also said ALT2 is suitable, discussion leaned more towards either of these two, so a new reviewer is needed to make a final decision. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:07, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No, the discussion did not determine that, nor strike those hooks. Please do not strike my comments against the guidance of WP:TPO and please self-revert, as you have become WP:INVOLVED here. — Red-tailed hawk (nest) 22:38, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I did not strike your comments, only some of the hooks above. Striking hooks is a common practice on DYK regarding hooks that are deemed to no longer be under consideration. For what it's worth, there did seem to be (emphasis on "seem" here, so correct me if I'm wrong) loose consensus that the original hook was problematic, so that's probably out of the question now, though the discussion didn't rule out RoySmith's rewording of it. That's why there's the request for a previously uninvolved reviewer, to make sure the final decision is impartial. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:17, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
For the benefit of any new reviewers, the abovementioned discussion about this nomination is at Wikipedia talk:Did you know#Tellus (app). Storye book (talk) 10:21, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Now archived at Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 203#h-Tellus_(app)-20241229093500. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 17:16, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Red-tailed hawk: I'm sorry, I don't find ALT2 or ALT4 to meet WP:DYKINT; diversifying is a bogstandard company behaviour and ALT4 is way too technical for a broad audience. What else have you got?--Launchballer 02:44, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Red-tailed hawk: The nomination will time out in a few days, so please respond to the above if you wish for it to continue. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Note: Contrary to a comment in the discussion about hook content, none of the above hooks 1-5 are intended as busybodying efforts to warn Tellus's customers about business malpractice. If a business is officially under suspicion and/or questions have been asked, then that is of interest to all. Storye book (talk) 09:16, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 2

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Influencer

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Adrien Nunez as a basketball player
Adrien Nunez as a basketball player
Haley Cavinder
Haley Cavinder
Hanna Cavinder
Hanna Cavinder
Cavinder Twins in action
Cavinder Twins in action
Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. DYK is currently in unreviewed backlog mode and nominator has 369 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:38, 9 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Having an open move request doesn't seem like it should be an issue for DYK purposes, so the article can probably run regardless. If there's any movement on the move proposal then that can be worked on as time goes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:42, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@TonyTheTiger, Toadboy123, AirshipJungleman29, RoySmith, Theleekycauldron, and Narutolovehinata5: The move request closed. What else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 14:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I'm confused as to why the hook even had to be pulled from Queue in the first place, as having an ongoing move discussion is not considered a disqualifying issue for DYK purposes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:28, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was concerned about warring continuing when the page became prominently displayed and wanted to find a consensus for page name to know where to restore it to. I did not know that was not a concern. I was not concerned about it being disqualified, just worried about name stability.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 10:51, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
If there was an issue with an article title in the middle of it being in prep, that could have simply been done at the time instead of waiting for the move discussion to finish. It's like how an article being moved should not affect the status of its nomination, nor should the nomination also be moved to the new title. In any case, I see you tried to include multiple DYK images in the nomination. That simply will not fly due to accessibility concerns on the main page. Unless you can think of a really good example of an influencer (and given how subjective this is, it might encroach into OR territory), it would be for the best for the hook to run without an image. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:44, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
TonyTheTiger, there are way too many images here, and if any of them are not student athlete influencers, then they should be deleted immediately since they don't fit the hook. (I only see two mentioned in the article, in a quick glance; if those are the only ones who are mentioned, then please remove the rest.) BlueMoonset (talk) 05:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Sorry. Just changed the article and forgot what the hook was focussing on. Not a very cerebral effort.-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 06:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Madagascar banana

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  • Source: "Only five mature individuals of E. perrieri have been previously identified in the whole of Madagascar, and a recent survey has suggested that now only three of these may be left (Analavelona, Ampefy and Maintirano areas)." https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana
  • ALT1: ... that the Madagascar banana is critically endangered? Source: https://www.kew.org/read-and-watch/madagascan-banana
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  • Comment: No QPQ required as Laffuble will own this DYK as you can see from talk page. I (Chidgk1) just put it in for them and will deal with any questions they might be unsure about being relatively new to Wikipedia
Created by Laffuble (talk).

Chidgk1 (talk) 16:13, 16 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

QPQ: None required.

Overall: Hello Laffuble, welcome to DYK, I hope you have a wonderful time here! I have a few concerns regarding the article which I will outline below, and will ping Chidgk1 since there are outstanding inquiries about the state of this article:
ALT0 is truthfully the most interesting of the two hooks proposed. Plenty of things out there are critically endangered, it is a conservation category onto itself. The severely restricted population serves as a much better hook. However, the hook as it stands right now is not supported by the material within the article and the source, which states there are five mature individuals rather than three. I will strike ALT1 from consideration.
iNaturalist is not a good source for the plant's morphology, nor is Rarepalmseeds, which is a site with commercial interests. A much better source for that information is either a study or the original description, if it can be located. iNaturalist's image gallery being a source falls into WP:OR. Google Scholar is a helpful source for finding research papers regarding Ensete perrieri, if you're stuck finding trustworthy sources.
Earwig detects no copyvio issues, long enough, and new enough. I hope this can be of help to you! Ornithoptera (talk) 07:26, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ornithoptera: We have made some changes - is it ok now?

Chidgk1 My apologies but I see that you have simply replaced the problematic sources for the “Description” section, rather than consulting the source and making the necessary changes to the article using the information presented there. That will not be enough to allow for the article to pass scrutiny. Would you be able to take a look at the source rather than simply replacing the original citations? In addition, the hook has not been updated per my request, since it is not supported by the article text. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:02, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I've taken a look at the cited article and the description for E. perrieri is as follows: Ensete perrieri (Claverie) comb. nov. ; Musa perrieri P. Claverie in Comptes Rendus Acad. Sci. Paris 140 (1905), 1612, nomen, et in Ann. us. Colon. Marseille ser. 2, vol. 7 (1909), p. 74, descr. cum ic. t. 8., this will not serve as a viable source for the passage. I would be most ideal to first consult with the source before using it in the article. I noticed that you and Laffuble had issues with accessing sources, the Wikipedia library at WP:LIB, if you have made enough edits, can be a great resource since it has institutional access to several journals that can be of use. Ornithoptera (talk) 19:16, 17 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Ornithoptera: Thanks for explaining Wikipedia Library. Have added quote for hook - is hook OK now? If there are any remaining problems with the description please could you comment in the talk page section below this as it is easier to reply.Chidgk1 (talk) 08:02, 19 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Hi, Chidgk1, I really want to emphasize to you and Laffuble that you should both read the issues I have outlined with the article. Only a few significant edits that I have outlined have been addressed properly, I will break the issues down line by line so that it can be easier to guide you in going about the necessary edits.
  1. The text in the original description section has not been changed to match the source. The source was simply replaced, with the passage's text not significantly changed to address the new source. On top of this, Annales du Muśee colonial de Marseille does not explicitly identify this as E. perrieri. Unless the source is beyond a reasonable doubt that it is E. perrieri, it is not the most ideal. I would emphasize that it is most ideal to have the entire section re-written and updated to reflect sources that explicitly include a description of E. perrieri.

Laffuble Are you able to deal with this? If you are at uni maybe the librarian there can advise? I don't think there is any rush now so if you cannot fix it please contact me after Xmas and I will root around in the Wikipedia library mentioned above.

  1. iNaturalist is not a reliable source. It is a social media site that provides valuable insight, but the information cannot be considered reliable as anyone can upload an observation and provide faulty information.

@Ornithoptera: You are right that most info on iNaturalist is from members of the public so should not be cited, however the few photos which they classify as "research grade" are reliable in my opinion. If you disgree I will be happy to start a discussion at Wikipedia:Reliable sources/Noticeboard so we can get more thoughts on it. Chidgk1 (talk) 06:32, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I really want to assist this DYK make it through, but I really would like to have all necessary edits be done before I am alerted to allow for it to pass. Ornithoptera (talk) 03:47, 21 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi Laffuble and Chidgk1, has there been any adjustments to the article since we have had our last conversation? I don't believe there has been any activity since the 30th. In terms of the iNaturalist comment, "research grade" is a meaningless designation exclusive to the site, and has little bearing in many circles outside of that. Compare that concept with "reddit gold" or "subtweet." While it is important in some circles, I don't think it would be a meaningful piece of content for the article, and a statistic that can be in flux if the status of the observations is changed or if another is found. Ornithoptera (talk) 06:44, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @Ornithoptera:. I am busy now with a GA of mine which is being reviewed. Pretty sure no one else but me will be interested in writing about that coal-fired power plant here in Turkey. Totally guessing but Laffuble might be a student so perhaps busy with studies. Whereas I am surprised no one from the plants project seems to be interested in this - I will ask there one more time. Otherwise I might have time to look at this next week. If none of us have done anything by the end of next week feel free to close it off as out of time. Even if that happens your comments are still useful for the future so I don't think your time has been wasted. Chidgk1 (talk) 07:40, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think that the statements about saving the Cavendish banana are mostly hype. Resistance factors potentially can be obtained from any species of Musa or Ensete, including members of the Musa acuminata AAA cultivar group.
Also, elsewhere I have seen complaints that research grade at iNaturalist is too easily obtained, and can't be relied upon. Lavateraguy (talk) 16:18, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ornithoptera: Following the improvements by Lavateraguy is there anything more needed for DYK? Chidgk1 (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Abductive: Unless Ornithoptera says it is essential to pass DYK please can you formally propose renaming on a separate section of the talk page and I will detail my opposition there. Chidgk1 (talk) 13:47, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You don't think the article title going against longstanding consensus is a problem? Abductive (reasoning) 05:55, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know whether it is a big enough problem to stop DYK - that is a decision for the DYK reviewer @Ornithoptera: Chidgk1 (talk) 07:57, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I moved it. @Abductive, Chidgk1, Lavateraguy, Ornithoptera, and Laffuble: What else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 14:37, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
As far as I know everything is done - but it is for the reviewer to confirm that not me. Chidgk1 (talk) 15:52, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Decolonization is Not a Metaphor

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  • Source: Combination of Indigenous sovereignty was never ceded, and the continued presence of settlers is essentially illegitimate. [1] and [2] which explains how "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor". The paper itself as a primary source also supports the first part of the hook.
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Created by Chess (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:29, 13 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Thus far, I have been unable to verify that the paper "calls for the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty." Neither of the two sources you cite above appear to support the statement, they just say the paper calls for a stricter interpretation of the meaning of the word "decolonization", which is a very different thing. Gatoclass (talk) 22:28, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gatoclass: That's a very good point. What about "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate?" Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 22:39, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, you would need a source for that statement. Gatoclass (talk) 22:47, 13 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gatoclass: This is very verbose, but what about that the title of a paper describing the continued presence of non-indigenous in the United States as being illegitimate has become a slogan for pro-Palestinian protestors? The claim that settler presence in the United States is supported by the source, the only thing I've done is explained "settler" as being "non-Indigenous" because the average person would be more likely to understand that. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 05:46, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Again, a quote from a source confirming the hook statement would be required at minimum. But these suggestions thus far all look a little tortured to me. How about keeping it simple and straightforward, something like:
ALT4: ... that the title of a 2012 academic paper, "Decolonization is Not a Metaphor", has been adopted as a slogan by pro-Palestinian protestors? Gatoclass (talk) 06:20, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Gatoclass: Sure, that works. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 06:22, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Having looked a little more closely at the article, I'm not sure your interpretation of the paper is accurate. Certainly, it's a difficult text to come to grips with - at least for me, as it contains a lot of academic jargon that tends to obscure the authors' meaning to a non-professional in the field. But for example, you state: "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate [it] must be redressed by decolonization". Did he really say that? Because I would have thought that if he had, the paper would be more notorious than merely influential. On the other hand, if he is only saying that that's what decolonization must mean, he is simply defining a term rather than arguing in favour of it, and there is a world of difference between the two.

However, since most of the article is sourced directly to the paper itself, without clarifying quotes, it's hard to know whether your interpretation is accurate. I'm not even entirely sure if the paper itself doesn't count as a primary source here, which might also be problematic.

So, is there any chance you could provide some actual quotes from the paper, or better still perhaps, reliable secondary sources that have written about it, in order to clarify the point? Because I think it's obviously an important distinction to get right. Cheers, Gatoclass (talk) 06:54, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gatoclass: The article is far from perfect and I welcome suggestions to improve it as I'm less experienced than I should be with writing from scratch.
I looked into this when you raised it the first time. The closest thing in the text I can find right now is We don’t intend to discourage those who have dedicated careers and lives to teaching themselves and others to be critically conscious of racism, sexism, homophobia, classism, xenophobia, and settler colonialism. We are asking them/you to consider how the pursuit of critical consciousness, the pursuit of social justice through a critical enlightenment, can also be settler moves to innocence - diversions, distractions, which relieve the settler of feelings of guilt or responsibility, and conceal the need to give up land or power or privilege. (emphasis mine)
So, the authors explicitly acknowledge a need for settlers to give up land. Likewise, page 10 of the paper criticizes decolonial scholars that enable "settler moves to innocence". I will likely have to make the article more directly explain what Tuck and Yang said, with better inline citations.
Also, Eve Tuck is a woman with she/her pronouns (at least on her website). Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 07:51, 14 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Gatoclass: This is a bit of a drive-by comment (I haven't looked closely at the wiki article itself), but as someone from this academic discipline who has often seen this article cited/discussed in the field, I'd say it's completely accurate to say that "Tuck argues that ... because the existence of settlers on stolen land is illegitimate [it] must be redressed by decolonization", that the article "views the United States as fundamentally illegitimate", and that "the return of the United States to indigenous sovereignty" is what "decolonization" ought to mean. The impact of the article is more like "let's stop saying we're decolonizing when we're just close-reading a novel" than it is "let's decolonize the US for real immediately!" but I haven't seen any exaggerations or misinterpretation of its argument here. I do think ALT4 is the clearest and best hook, though. ~ L 🌸 (talk) 04:52, 27 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Sorry, but we can't base content-related decisions on the testimony of wikipedia editors, we need reliable sources to verify content. So again, either clear quotes from the article that the authors are actually endorsing decolonization of the US, or critiques from reliable secondary sources supporting such an interpretation (although other interpretations would also have to be included if they exist to provide balance). Gatoclass (talk) 07:13, 29 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

I have to agree with Gatoclass on this; plus I have some other concerns. What we have here is a summary of the paper, but not anything that meaningfully demonstrates why this topic is encyclopedic. A one sentence line saying the paper is influential isn't going to cut it. We need details on how it is influential and who is claiming it is influential. Additionally, we need to see different critical responses to this paper through quotes in published reviews, both positive and negative to meet our WP:POV policies. The current text relies too heavily on the paper itself which is inappropriate as the paper is the subject and is therefore a primary document in this case. Additionally, it isn't clear that the summation of the paper is entirely accurate and is not an original analysis of the paper which would run afoul of WP:SYNTH. What we need here is more reliance on critical analysis and reviews of the paper, and text which more closely aligns with the meaning in the sources without being so close as to be considered plagiarism. The use of clarifying quotes from the paper could also assist in this (ie let the paper speak for itself in key places). It's a difficult line to walk. Additionally, the current text of the article lacks any meaningful critical engagement with the text; to the point that I would consider this incomplete (ie fails WP:DYKCOMPLETE).

In short, we need a decrease in reliance on the paper itself as a cited reference and an increase in reliance on secondary sources about the paper with more critical engagement highlighted. A significant amount of work is needed before this can pass a DYK review. Aside from this, I think Alt4 is a good hook that is usable. It is verified to the cited reference and is interesting. I think these issues are solvable. Ping me when the article has been improved and needs a second look.4meter4 (talk) 20:38, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Update. In just doing a cursory look in google scholar, SAGE and JSTOR, there are many articles that cite and summarize Tuck and Yang's paper which could be used to source the summary. There are also multiple publications which respond to the work, both affirming and questioning the limits of its praxis. This type of critical commentary is exactly what is needed in this article. I suggest the nominator rewrite the summary based on these types of secondary sources, and create a critical reaction section. 4meter4 (talk) 04:02, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: Can you link some of those or provide the search terms you are using? Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 08:22, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I gathered some sources for you and put them on the talk page of the article.4meter4 (talk) 09:13, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: What do you think of it now? I've attempted to remove most of the primary sourcing and included reactions to the paper itself. Chess (talk) (please mention me on reply) 02:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The summary is too perfunctory to pass WP:DYKCOMPLETE. You have not grasped the main point of the paper, and have not identified who the audience is and what the central problem is which in this case is intimately linked to the audience: educators mostly but also social justice workers who have been influenced by education praxis. The article is fundamentally a critique of education praxis around decoloniality calling out teachers specifically but also social justice workers for engaging with "settler moves to innocence" ("settler moves" is a term; these words go together in this order always) through various forms like "Colonial equivocation", "Free your mind and the rest will follow", etc. You've fundamentally misunderstood this section in some ways because you haven't identified that its educators/social justice workers/activists being addressed as being complicit in some of these practices within their work. Which brings us to the "Ethic of incommensurability" which is the meat of the paper and the first truly original part not based on prior work. You've not talked about this at all, which is not surprising because you never really hit on the earlier identified problem that Tuck and Yang are addressing through this ethic, and who they are encouraging to implement that ethic and why. See the talk page for more comments, but honestly the abstract and opening and concluding sections of the paper are your best resources in crafting a summary. A reminder that you can use clarifying quotes from the paper in the summary. At this point, I'm concerned that you fundamentally are missing basic comprehension of the text because neither your first draft or second draft have demonstrated that you can identify the key terms and conclusions in the paper. At this point we are no closer to being ready for the main page with this particular article. 4meter4 (talk) 06:07, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@4meter4: Several edits were made to the article after your comments, did they satisfy your concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5 No edits have been made after the most recent comment on January 16. Currently the article doesn't even address or mention the main point of the paper which is the "ethic of incommensurability", nor does it accurately depict or describe the problem that the authors are attempting to solve with their proposed "ethic of incommensurability". The article has not been updated at all since the above comment was made. See Talk:Decolonization is Not a Metaphor#More work on the summary is needed where I gave detailed feedback to Chess as to what is missing in the summary. No improvements have yet been made to solve these issues, but Chess has indicated they are working on it. Whether or not those improvements happen in a timely fashion is the question. Once this reaches the time out mark it would be ok to pass on this if the summary has not been modified to accurately represent the paper.4meter4 (talk) 02:07, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 16

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Dubai chocolate

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  • ... that Dubai chocolate has become so expensive, it is being smuggled and sold on the black market?
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Created by Killarnee (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Killarnee (talk) 15:44, 21 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comments by Tbhotch

General eligibility:

Policy compliance:

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - See below
QPQ: Done.

Overall: A newly created article that is long enough. No QPQ required. No copyvio issues.

  • The hook is interesting, but the source in the article says "secondary market", not black market.
  • There is a contradiction. The first section starts with "Fix Dessert Chocolatier was founded in Dubai in September 2022". Immediately below it says "Sarah Hamouda, who founded the company Fix Dessert Chocolatiers in the Emirate of Dubai in 2021, claimed to be the inventor of the Dubai chocolate". Ignoring the "Chocolatier(s)" inconsistency throughout the page, this first needs to be fixed.
  • I added a few maintenance tags that need to be solved as well. (CC) Tbhotch™ 02:51, 22 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

@Tbhotch: I've gone ahead and fixed several problems with the article, please have a look now. Thanks, jolielover♥talk 08:33, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]

 Reviewing... (CC) Tbhotch™ 20:18, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover: We're missing the secondary market / black market thing. The cited source trademagazin says "The special candy can be bought for up to 250 thousand forints on the secondary market, according to a report by Pénzcentrum." I'm not an economist but the secondary market doesn't sound similar to the black market. (CC) Tbhotch™ 22:23, 4 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Tbhotch: There is a primary market where stocks are rated and sold by the listed company itself and a secondary market where stocks are rated and sold at the stock exchange by the listed company independent traders like you and me. And there is a black market where illegal goods, goods without paying taxes, etc. are sold. I think the difference is quite clear.
I have no idea why some newspapers use secondary market as a synonym for black market, maybe because of the word "black" like the controversy about the black in blacklist, e.g. [3]. In this case, black market or at least when using secondary market linking that word to the article black market and not the article secondary market, is right. Btw, in German media, black market (Schwarzmarkt) is predominant.
Thanks for your work on that. Killarnee (talk) 03:07, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the explanation. My concern would be WP:DYKHOOK since the hook says "it is being smuggled and sold on the black market", which was what hooked me to review this article. When I reviewed the article it did say that it was smuggled and sold on the black market, but the coupled source (mentioned above) was saying "secondary market", which makes it less illegal and attractive for the general audience (i.e. "The hook should be likely to be perceived as unusual or intriguing by readers with no special knowledge or interest in the topic"). The other sources linked on top of this page just say this: "The smuggling operation unfolded over two separate incidents at the Nickelsdorf", "customs officials at the German-Swiss border stopped a man who was attempting to smuggle around 45 kilograms of the coveted 'Dubai chocolate' into Germany", "products from other brands with both the original Dubai chocolate and its many variations fetching high prices on the resale market", "Limited-edition bars are commanding exorbitant prices, with some enduring long queues and even resorting to smuggling", and the most relevant statement, "Dubai doesn't ship to the U.S. and there is a black market for these chocolate bars now, at exhorbitant [sic] prices" from this source that is not used in the article. Both the hook and the article must be in synchrony to be approved. (CC) Tbhotch™ 03:34, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I think the hook is an overbording claim if it remains without an indication as to where this would be- the German Swiss border, maybe....! In fact checking how "expensive" it is, it isnt any more in Germany, and the claim apperas to be sensationalizing and not neutral.Wuerzele (talk) 18:29, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to make a similar comment to Wuerzele here, the article reads slightly promotional, with sentences like "She aimed to create chocolate bars that combined unique textures and flavors, focusing on the filling to set her company apart from competitors." There are other prose issues, such as not specifying which border is meant both times the word is used and never explaining what kadayif is. This source [4], which appears to be unreliable per WP:FORBESCON (written by a "Brand Contributor"), also does not verify the statement that bars are 100g, which is contradicted by the paragraph right above it. Taken together, I am not sure if this article is presentable enough for the main page at the moment. Toadspike [Talk] 20:17, 6 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Why not include the photo in the hook? Surtsicna (talk) 11:16, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Jolielover: Any updates to the comments above? (CC) Tbhotch™ 02:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Killarnee, Tbhotch, Jolielover, Wuerzele, Toadspike, Surtsicna, and Mhhossein: The file has since been deleted, what else needs to be done here?--Launchballer 14:45, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the ping. At a glance, the article still has the prose issues I listed above, and it cites a Forbes brand contributor article and Bild, both of which are not reliable. Toadspike [Talk] 16:41, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 21

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Sigma Boy

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  • ... that the song "Sigma Boy" is effective as an alarm tone?
Created by Moscow Connection (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 40 past nominations.

Moscow Connection (talk) 23:58, 28 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

More bold links means more views, i.e. more people reading about the topic you wrote about. It is not a requirement, of course. Surtsicna (talk) 08:58, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Moscow Connection, Surtsicna, and Narutolovehinata5: What is the status of this nomination?--Launchballer 14:49, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I still think that the hook can and should be better. All of my concerns about the article have been addressed, Launchballer, but I still feel a bit iffy here. It feels like I am missing something. Surtsicna (talk) 10:53, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
So, I looked at the article and cut the hook on WP:SUMMARY grounds, as it is clearly too hyperbolic to be encyclopedic. I suggest instead ALT2: ... that a German TikToker started a trend of playing "Sigma Boy at full volume on public transport? Also, WP:CLUMP needs resolving - there should not be seventeen references for a single claim.--Launchballer 14:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 25

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Scorsese Baby Daddy

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  • Source: Centeno, Tony M. (December 24, 2024). "SZA Freaks Out After Famed Director's Family Co-Signs Song from Lana LP". WHYI-FM. Retrieved December 26, 2024.
Moved to mainspace by PSA (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

Elias 🦗🐜 [Chat, they chattin', they chat] 07:41, 26 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

Di (they-them) (talk) 11:56, 26 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - While the hook seems true, the source attached here doesn't explicitly support some of the facts. It doesn't verify that Scorsese is known for crime films (just films in general) nor that SZA didn't expect him to find about it (just that his daughter (and potentially him) found out about it). It's possible his daughter posted the story without sharing the song with him. "SZA was shocked after she received the Scorsese family's blessing." could be partially implied to mean this, but I'd still prefer a more direct statement to confirm.
  • Interesting: Yes
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Overall, the article presents no problems. Reliable sources exist, the paragraphs are cited, it's new enough, long enough, and there's no copyvio. ALT1 reads as more interesting to me, but it would also need a valid source as the linked one doesn't support the "emotionally unstable boyfriend" portion. I'd be more than happy to approve if this part is resolved. TheDoctorWho (talk) 19:29, 10 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@PSA: Please address the above.--Launchballer 02:50, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Hello @TheDoctorWho, as the nominator I personally disagree with ALT1 per DYKFICTION issues. I also do not expect a Wikipedia reader unfamiliar with film to know who Scorsese is. Regardless, wrt to the citation for "emotionally unstable boyfriend", Vulture says "SZA explains that she’s looking for the sort of volatile relationship that Martin Scorsese’s mobsters, criminals, and rich guys often have."
For the rest: I changed the wording re. crime films (clumsy wording on my part) + replaced one of the citations re. the Scorsese notice with this HotNewHipHop source that says she "received the mention from the director through his daughter's social media". (Tangentially, he's definitely heard the song, regardless of whether or not the Instagram post counted as a shoutout.) Hope this clears things up, and thanks for reviewing this nom Elias 🦗🐜 [Chat, they chattin', they chat] 06:03, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@PSA: Sorry if I wasn't clear before, one of my issues was the source content (for ALT0) in relation to the facts of the hook. I'm not disputing that she found out about it, but the proposed hook specifically says she "did not expect him to know about it hours after release?", a statement that does not appear to be directly or indirectly supported in both the WHYI or HotNewHipHop sources. The closest statement in the WHYI source says that "SZA was shocked after she received the Scorsese family's blessing." While this is close, I'm worried it's still not direct enough. For example, she could have "expected" him to find out, but still be "shocked" to receive the blessing. If we stick with ALT1 that's not an issue, but given your concern, the original would need to be reworded if you wanted to stick with it. What about something like:
or
(these are two that I just picked up from the initial WHYI source)? These facts would need to be added to the article as well of course, but shouldn't be a major issue since sourcing already exists there. TheDoctorWho (talk) 04:29, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 26

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Articles created/expanded on December 27

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M/S Hessu, ordered to do the job on New Year's Eve
M/S Hessu, ordered to do the job on New Year's Eve

Kyseiset huoltotoimet kestävät arviolta kaksi päivää.

– Tyhjennykset tapahtuvat tämän päivän aikana, ja huomenna viedään vesi.
    • ALT1: ... that the nomination wizard doesn't have an option to delete alt hooks? Source: a
    • Reviewed: no previous DYK's
5x expanded by NotAGenious (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

NotAGenious (talk) 17:55, 2 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hi @NotAGenious: nice work on your first DYK. This article, over 5x expanded from 775 to 11062 characters, is new enough, long enough, well-sourced, and copyvio-free. QPQ not needed. The hook is interesting and sourced to the Finnish newspaper Iltalehti (which checks out, per Google Translate), however per WP:DYKHOOK the claim in the hook also has to be in the article. Can you add this fact somewhere in the article?
The hook also flows flows a little awkwardly. Might I suggest
Best, Tenpop421 (talk) 01:42, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I don't know how long this procedure typically takes, but I feel sorry for the guy who has to inspect all that bilge and sewage. kencf0618 (talk) 16:00, 3 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I think the start of the hook has a grammar issue, may I suggest:
ALT2: ... that while investigating a power cable failure, it took a day to pump all the feces and bilgewater out of the Eagle S?
The word "failure" can be exchanged with "break" or "outage" if preferred. Toadspike [Talk] 08:27, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on December 28

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Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps)

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7th Marine Brigade members conducting an excercise
7th Marine Brigade members conducting an excercise
  • ... that on May 5, 2017, the 7th Marine Brigade (pictured) captured three Somali pirates and handed them in to the Somali authorities?
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  • Comment: The draft was made by me, User:Buckshot06 published it for me

Additionally 7th Marine Brigade is an alternate name for the Special Operations Brigade (PLA Navy Marine Corps), also known as the Jiaolong commandos as of nominating it for Dyk, the article was published exactly 7 days ago so if i have to may I request the 7 day limit be extended

Created by Thehistorianisaac (talk) and Buckshot06 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Thehistorianisaac (talk) 13:01, 4 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

{{Buckshot06}} There is a {{cn}} tag in the article and the third paragraph of History deserves another. Please fix these. When you've done that, ping me and I will review this.--Launchballer 18:21, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

  • Adequate sourcing: No - There is a citation needed tag in the lead (can be cited to the OE Watch source) and an uncited sentence beginning with "Sixteen". CGTN is deprecated (see WP:CGTN), so it should be replaced with a better source. It is unclear if the CCTV video is an appropriate source, since the same entry at RSP says that "CCTV International" is also deprecated. The other sources look good; the National Interest piece mentions the Somalia incident as well, in case it helps.
  • Neutral: Yes
  • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: No - See sourcing issues above – you should probably change the source in the DYK nom to the SCMP article, since that is a more reliable source.
  • Interesting: Yes
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: Gonna list a few things here, apologize for the rapid-fire writing style. I believe no QPQ is required, as neither nominator has nominated 5 DYKs. Is there a source for the claim that the soldier in the picture is a member of this unit? As the article is currently written, it is unclear if the April 2017 and 5 May 2017 incidents are the same or not. SCMP says they are, this should be clarified. The article also claims that the pirates were handed over to the Somali Police Force, when the description of the CGTN source says they were handed over to the "semi-autonomous northern region of Puntland" – Buckshot correctly adjusted this to "Somali authorities" in the DYK hook but the article text needs to be updated too. Toadspike [Talk] 20:31, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Buckshot06 and Thehistorianisaac, please see the review above and ping me once these issues are adressed. Launchballer, apologies for stealing the review – I started it earlier today only saw your comment when I caused an edit conflict while trying to publish it. Toadspike [Talk] 20:35, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Buckshot06 and Thehistorianisaac: Please address the above.--Launchballer 02:54, 25 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Will do, quite busy recently Thehistorianisaac


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Bonnie Blue (actress)

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Bonnie Blue in June 2024
Bonnie Blue in June 2024
Created by Launchballer (talk) and Meena (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 265 past nominations.

Launchballer 04:52, 4 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment I think the facts about her being banned from Australia and Fiji are really interesting/crazy so I want to suggest some alts if you don't mind:
    ALT3: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) was banned from multiple countries because of her porn career?
    ALT4: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) was banned from multiple countries because she had too much sex?
Di (they-them) (talk) 14:28, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
"Multiple countries" would need an end-of-sentence citation for Australia. That said, "that Matty Healy is banned from Dubai" was the most-viewed non-image hook of May 2023, so perhaps a bald ALT5: ... that Bonnie Blue (pictured) is banned from Fiji?--Launchballer 15:02, 5 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I reworded the sentence in question, so either ALT3 or ALT4 could be trimmed at 'countries'.--Launchballer 04:04, 8 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems
Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.
QPQ: Done.

Overall: Article is new enough, long enough, sourced enough (althought some international coverage might be a nice addition), is neutral and is plagiarism free (just quotes from Earwig). Hooks are cited, and interesting. Image is free to use, and is clear, CC BY checked on Commons and YT. QPQ is done. On the hooks, I think "... is banned in Fiji" is a good one - I feel like 'multiple countries' implies several (i.e. 3+), not two places. Lajmmoore (talk) 12:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT5 appears to be unduly negative for a hook. Pinging another promoter AirshipJungleman29 for thoughts. SL93 (talk) 20:36, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, I think ALTs 3–5 violate WP:DYKBLP SL93. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:00, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a shame, I'd agree with 3-4, but I thought 5 was OK as its brief, and avoided gratuity. Happy to support consensus though! It's so interesting how interpretation of the guidelines differs between people Lajmmoore (talk) 21:15, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
This discussion seemed to skip over the first three hooks; they have neither been approved or rejected. Could someone assess them?--Launchballer 23:32, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Launchballer I can if you want me to, but I didn't because barely anyone has been promoting nominations that I have been involved in and barely anyone else have been building preps. SL93 (talk) 01:43, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
No preference.--Launchballer 02:46, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hook reviews:

  • ALT0 so the source in Glamour UK but it is quoting the Daily Star & the full quotation goes: "Blue has also made claims about sleeping with married men, claiming that these men came to her because they were not satisfied by their partners. “It’s no secret women moan a lot,” she said to the Daily Star. "What they don’t understand is all that moaning is unattractive and making their men look else where for fun and pleasure." She added, “If women were better in the bedroom, men wouldn’t cheat. All their nagging about pots not being done is resulting in me being bent over their kitchen worktops whilst they’re out. I used to blame the men for cheating but since being a sex worker, I blame the woman. Men look elsewhere when they’re bored, so stop boring them.” I'would welcome advice on whether Glamour quoting the Daily Star counts as a RS? I also think the current wording hides the full implication of her beliefs i.e. that women are bad at sex so that forces men to go to her. Question?
  • ALT1 so the source is Cosmopolitan which is taken as a RS on a case by case basis - here I think I'd lean towards it being reliable, as they quote Blue & the full quotation is "Blue said she offers the students the chance to have sex with her for free on the basis that she can film it and use the content in her online material." Green tickY
  • ALT2 the source used in from GB News which is deemed unreliable (WP:GBNEWS) and "shouldn't be used as a source for living people" as per WP:GUNREL - I missed this totally when I did the initial review, so this is my mistake. I would recommend alternative sourcing is found for its inline referencing. Red XN
  • ALT3 as discussion above
  • ALT4 as discussion above
  • ALT5 as discussion above

Overall, and admitting my own mistake, I would suggest that ALT1 is OK to be used, but that ALTS 0 and 2 are not from reliable enough sources. Further GB News can't be used to support information inline, please ping me when that is removed. Thanks very much for the reminder to be thorough, a good set of lessons for me as a reviewer Lajmmoore (talk) 21:03, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I have removed GB News from prose, even though it was my understanding that interviews come under WP:ABOUTSELF. It should still be fine for the Filmography table. I missed the phrase "Daily Star" in the source and assumed it was said in a podcast, so cut.--Launchballer 21:57, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

I just discovered this, and in my view any DYK hook that talks about a living person committing adultery should be nowhere near the main page. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont) 09:44, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DYKHOOKBLP only applies to unduly negative hooks and there is no way that a hook about a sex worker having sex qualifies for that.--Launchballer 10:04, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Let's strike ALT0 then - I doubt the security of the sourcing anyway, but ALT1 doesn't mention adultery Lajmmoore (talk) 14:51, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


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Stretcher railings

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Strecher railing feet
  • ... that London's stretcher railings (example pictured) were mass-produced using an all-metal design to make it easier to clean, and still have kinks that were used as feet from their original purpose as stretchers?
  • ALT1a ... that London's stretcher railings (pictured) were mass-produced using an all-metal design to be easier to clean, and still have kinks that were used as feet?
  • ALT1b ... that London's stretcher railings were mass-produced using an all-metal design to be easier to clean, and still have kinks (example pictured) that were used as feet?
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by Bobby Cohn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Bobby Cohn (talk) 18:30, 30 December 2024 (UTC).[reply]

  • A great topic, and the article is new enough and meets the basic GA requirements on length. No evidence of plagiarism; two images, suitably licensed. No need for a QPQ. However, the article relies heavily on Atlas Obscura, which is an unreliable source per WP:RSP. The hook is interesting, but I would suggest trimming for length: something like:

... that London's stretcher railings (example pictured) were mass-produced using an all-metal design to be easier to clean, and still have kinks that were used as feet?

A search on Google Books turned up a few hits that might help to add reliable sources to the article. UndercoverClassicist T·C 22:16, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hi @UndercoverClassicist, thanks for the notes. When writing, I was a little suspicious of the source as it looked liked WP:UGC, but I was not aware of WP:AOPLACES. I've removed those citations; it just so happened that in the two instances of those citations, the content was also verified in the immediately subsequent citation and there's no paragraph without an inline, so I believe this should satisfy WP:V but let me know if you have additional concerns. As to your suggestion, I agree, my orginal was a little too wordy. I will endorse your ALT1. Thanks, Bobby Cohn (talk) 23:32, 30 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Approved either of the ALT1s. The article could do with a a wider bibliography, as (correctly) removing Atlas Obscura has left it a little thing, but it passes the bar that it needs to at this stage. UndercoverClassicist T·C 14:02, 31 December 2024 (UTC)[reply]
This is my first DYK nom with an image. The set builder will notice the only difference between the ALT1s is the brackets, and I'm okay if they want to take liberties with (example pictured) vs. (pictured) in either location. Thanks all, Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:42, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Or the image caption for that matter. Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:43, 2 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Bobby Cohn and UndercoverClassicist: I don't really think "used as feet" in the hook is the best way to phrase it, could we come up with an alternate formulation? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 14:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@User:AirshipJungleman29, from the source There were two kinks in the poles meaning they could be rested on the ground but still be picked up quickly and easily. Possibly "still have the kinks they were used to rest on"? Bobby Cohn (talk) 15:33, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
An alternative would be to rework the whole thing slightly: something like "...that some railings in London have kinks indicating their original use as stretchers?". UndercoverClassicist T·C 15:36, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Bobby Cohn would you be happy with that? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 16:54, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
AirshipJungleman29, yes, very. UndercoverClassicist has put it much more elegantly than I could have. Bobby Cohn (talk) 17:38, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Fossils of Finland

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Created by DogWorldLive64 (talk), GeorgiaHuman (talk), and Hemiauchenia (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

DogWorldLive64 (talk) 10:16, 1 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hello and welcome to DYK. Right now, Fossils of Finland is only 235 characters long, far below the 1,500 character minimum requirement. The article's wording is also in need of a copyedit. As this appears to be your first nomination and English doesn't seem to be your first language, we can be lenient and give the article a week to be brought up to standards. If you need any assistance, please do not hesitate to ask for advice over at WT:DYK. Good luck! Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 11:12, 1 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It has been almost a week since the nomination, but the article has not made any edits to the article, nor did they properly respond to the above. As the article is nowhere near a state appropriate for DYK and also now has a notability tag, this nomination is marked for closure. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 14:24, 7 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@GeorgiaHuman: has beefed this up to 899 characters. Would you be interested in expanding further?--Launchballer 11:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Launchballer: I see that you proposed the article for deletion (which DogWorldLive64 then removed). Maybe an AFD is needed to address the notability concerns? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 12:50, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It seems to me that the DogWorldLive64 profile (used to create/nominate this title) has primarily been used for disruptive editing. And, while "the creator also engaged in vandalism" is not strictly one of the WP:DYKRULES, three of the five WP:DYKAIMs are to: 'showcase' new/improved/quality content, to 'acknowledge' the work of the creating editor, and to 'encourage' such behaviours and recruit others to do the same. Personally I don't think DYK nom is one that deserves/warrants 'showcasing' or the related behaviours should be 'acknowledged' or 'encouraged'. Whatever about an AfD, I think this DYK should be closed/rejected. As an extension of WP:DENY. Guliolopez (talk) 15:16, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Which would be a good point, however this was started off by that user as a 200-odd character stub and would now be eligible as a 5x expansion by a different user. (It's currently just over 1,400; might finish the job when I'm feeling less spaced out.)--Launchballer 15:29, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I see this is now above 1500 characters (nice one @Hemiauchenia:!) so I'm going to review this. Long enough, new enough. Nominator is QPQ exempt and Earwig is clean. There is no hook on this nomination; I think the best you're going to get is ALT1: ... that the fossils of Finland include a woolly mammoth and a woolly rhinoceros?.--Launchballer 15:39, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Roller disco

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1979 disco skaters in New York, likely at the Sheepshead Bay Roll-A-Palace
  • ... that Cher, Prince, Grace Jones, Madonna, and Olivia Newton-John all participated in the 1979 roller disco craze?
  • Source: "Undiscarded: Stories of New York: Ep7 – Rollerskate". The City Reliquary. 2023-05-17. Archived from the original on January 3, 2025. Retrieved 2025-01-03. https://web.archive.org/web/20250103154034/https://www.cityreliquary.org/undiscarded-rollerskate/ -- " Mr. Charisma’s (another moniker for Mr. Butler) stylish tricks and effortless skating style (Brooklyn Bounce, Wobbly Duck) made the rink a HOT destination and drew storied celebrities away from the snooty uptown clubs (Studio 54) down to the warm & accepting Brooklyn Rink. Most famously Cher herself" ............. Other celebrities source: Reaven, M., Zeitlin, S. (2006). Hidden New York: A Guide to Places That Matter. Rutgers University Press, 114. Ortiz, Lori. (2011) Disco Dance. ABC-CLIO, 127.
  • ALT1: ... that The Kalamazoo News described the "Disco Dip" as "the pioneering roller disco record" of 1979? Source: "Faster Than Sound". Kalamazoo News. 15 November 1979. p. 16. Retrieved 2025-01-02. "The “Disco Dip," created by Ed Chalpin of PPX Enterprises, has until now been credited as the pioneering roller disco record. But according to A stound-A Sound Productions, a small New Jersey-based company, its “Roller Palace”.beat out Chalpin's product by one day.....Squabble, squabble. Everybody wants to be credited for jumping on the bandwagon first."
  • ALT2: ... that at the height of the roller disco craze of 1979, there were an estimated "5,000 roller rinks in the U.S.," attracting "more than 28 million young American skaters"? Source: "Brooklyn Sees New 'Disco Dip'". Billboard. 1979-02-17. p. 70. https://books.google.com/books?id=LSUEAAAAMBAJ&pg=PT97&dq=%22disco+dip%22+wktu&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwj0h4mh89eKAxUVvokEHTbsDzEQ6AF6BAgHEAI#v=onepage&q=%22disco%20dip%22%20wktu&f=false "There are an estimated 5,000 roller rinks in the U.S. They reportedly attract more than 28 million young American skaters. According to [Ed] Chalpin, 99.9% of these rinks are already programming disco music either in whole or in part."
  • ALT3: ... that during the roller disco craze of 1979, Mr. Charisma's "stylish tricks" made the Empire Roller Disco "a HOT destination"? Source: "Undiscarded: Stories of New York: Ep7 – Rollerskate". The City Reliquary. 2023-05-17. Archived from the original on January 3, 2025. Retrieved 2025-01-03. https://www.cityreliquary.org/undiscarded-rollerskate/ "Mr. Charisma’s (another moniker for Mr. Butler) stylish tricks and effortless skating style (Brooklyn Bounce, Wobbly Duck) made the rink a HOT destination and drew storied celebrities away from the snooty uptown clubs (Studio 54) down to the warm & accepting Brooklyn Rink. Most famously Cher herself"
  • Reviewed:
5x expanded by Evedawn99 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Evedawn99 (talk) 15:00, 8 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • This is good work, Evedawn99, but the article has not been expanded fivefold. The article has the potential to produce very good hooks, however. Perhaps you should aim for improving it to GA status and then nominate it again. Surtsicna (talk) 00:30, 9 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • To be more precise, the article previously had 2219 prose characters, so a 5× expansion would require 11095 prose characters, and currently has just under half that, at 5418. Unless it can be expanded by another 5677 prose characters, and very quickly, it will not qualify for DYK. Surtsicna's recommendation may be the best way for it to become eligible. Best of luck! BlueMoonset (talk) 00:03, 11 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • @Evedawn99: Please respond to the above. The current nomination is likely to be rejected, but will you be willing to bring the article to GA status and renominate it for DYK then? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:55, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Hi all, thank you so much for reviewing! I will do my best to contribute more research in the meantime regarding various specific roller discos to see if I can get it to GA status and 11095 prose characters, likely tomorrow when I have computer access, but I understand if this article misses the nomination. Thanks again everyone for the support, and I appreciate your breakdown regarding the current fivefold ineligibility. I will do my best to see if I am able to allocate and contribute the appropriate amount of research tomorrow.Evedawn99 (talk) 18:51, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Hi everyone, I am currently expanding the article with more factual information from several new sources. I cannot figure out how to count the prosesize, but it is currently 6,555 bytes larger than it was yesterday. I will continue to expand the article as I feel is appropriate, but I wanted to update on my progress so far. Evedawn99 (talk) 16:53, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • Up to 27,296 bytes (up 11,333 bytes since yesterday) with plenty of added research! Does it qualify quite yet? Please let me know and thanks again. Evedawn99 (talk) 20:33, 14 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Chinese sanctions

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  • ... that China has sanctioned over 100 foreign individuals and entities with asset freezes and other restrictions due to alleged interference with China's sovereignty?
  • Source: https://iclg.com/practice-areas/sanctions/china
    Sanction reasons included interference with sovereignty, selling weapons to Taiwan and imposing unilateral sanctions related to Xinjiang and Hong Kong. Until August 2024, over 100 individuals and entities have been placed on the list.
Created by Haha169 (talk) and The Account 2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

haha169 (talk) 16:40, 6 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Haha169 and The Account 2: Sorry to keep you waiting, I got thrown after a filling fell out during lunch. This is long enough and new enough. The QPQ is not complete (you don't mention length, newness, or QPQ) but as it appears to have run without incident, I'll let it slide. Regardless of whether it checks out, I'd lose "with [...] sovereignty" from the hook per WP:DYKTRIM. Earwig picks up a lot but I see only WP:LIMITED phrases, so this should be fine. Some of this article is not sourced and this will need fixing before it can run.--Launchballer 20:32, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

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Jailson Mendes

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  • ... that Jailson Mendes had to gain weight for his first porn film?
    • ALT0a: ... that a bear had to gain weight for his first porn film?
    • ALT1: ... that Jailson Mendes entered the porn industry after a couple randomly approached him?
    • ALT2: ... that a porn star's "hysterically bizarre performance" became one of the most widely spread memes in Brazil?
    • ALT3: ... that a porn star received the nickname "Family Man"?
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Sugya
    • Comment: Driveby nom. ALT0a is intended for April Fools' Day.
Improved to Good Article status by Skyshifter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 266 past nominations.

Launchballer 15:38, 7 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Tanzania. Masterworks of African Sculpture

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Sukuma mask from Tanzania
Created by Munfarid1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 25 past nominations.

Munfarid1 (talk) 12:24, 6 January 2025 (UTC). [reply]

References

References

  1. ^ Kerstin Volker (1995), "Tanzania: Masterworks of African Sculpture", African Arts, vol. 28, no. 1, pp. 84–86, doi:10.2307/3337256, JSTOR 3337256
  2. ^ Kecskési, Maria (1994), Jens Jahn, Haus der Kulturen der Welt, Berlin und Städtische Galerie im Lenbachhaus, München (ed.), "Einleitung (introduction)", Tanzania: Meisterwerke afrikanischer Skulptur. Sanaa za Mabingwa wa Kiafrika. (in German and Swahili), München: Fred Jahn, pp. 17–18, ISBN 3-88645-118-6{{citation}}: CS1 maint: multiple names: editors list (link)
  • Thanks for pointing this out. Actually, the only sculpture from the exhibition on Wikimedia is the Sukuma mask I have now exchanged for the first image of a Makonde mask.- I hope this works just as well. (This mask was sold to Stanford Museum by the Jahn gallery after the exhibition took place. I have checked it in the catalogue and this provenance is mentioned on the museum's image file.
  • I want to congratulate you on covering such an important topic. One thing that stands out is the structure and composition related to this exhibition. Wikipedia has hundreds of such articles, covering some of the most popular as well as some of the most obscure art exhibitions in history. I would say that none of them are written in this style. Although your article doesn't diverge all that much from best practices, it does do a few things that are unusual that I can go into, but I think it would be more helpful for you to take a look at how other articles cover the subject. One way to do this is to explore Category:Art exhibitions by country. You will find some commonalities in the structure of sections. These include history, floor plan, exhibits, themes, legacy, list of artists, images, and other sections. Catalogues are generally used as sources, not as their own focus. I think the content you added here works, but the way you structure it should not be around the catalog as you do, but around the exhibition itself. It's a subtle change in focus that wouldn't require much modification. It would also take the focus off the authors and put it back on to the art exhibits. Viriditas (talk) 23:11, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I will answer on the article's talk page, as this complex idea does not stricly relate to the DYK nomination.

Reviewer requested. Viriditas (talk) 20:31, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Wielka, większa i największa

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Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 540 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 00:37, 4 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Ian Wolstenholme

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5x expanded by Mattythewhite (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.

Mattythewhite (talk) 16:26, 11 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I'm not really sure either. Isn't it not uncommon for players to save multiple penalty kicks per game? I think even doing it twice in a game is relatively common. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 13:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
From my experience of following football I'd say it's very rare for a goalkeeper to save three penalty kicks in the same match. According to this clever looking piece of research, there's a 14.7% chance of a goalkeeper saving a penalty. I've not got the brain capacity to work out the chance of saving three based on this but I'd imagine it's pretty slim. Mattythewhite (talk) 18:29, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Fair enough. I've struck the original hook, with ALT1 still available for review. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:44, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Note: a full review of this nomination is still needed. BlueMoonset (talk) 19:22, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Giving this a full review. The article was created on time (within seven days), is long enough, is free from close paraphrasing, and is adequately sourced. No close paraphrasing was found. A full QPQ has been done. The hook is cited inline, but it's paywalled so if possible it would be nice to have an excerpt provided (although I'm willing to AGF here). The only other concern is that the Personal life section is only one sentence long. Is that all that's known about him? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the review. This the text used for the claim, from this source: "Sheffield schoolteacher Ian Wolstenholme set up what must be a record when he saved three out of four penalties awarded to Retford Town against his club, Sheffield F.C., in a Yorkshire League Division Two match at Retford last Saturday, writes Reg Whittaker".
I'm afraid this is all I've managed to discover about him so far, and finding more will be difficult given that he wasn't a high-profile footballer or football manager, and most of the sourcing available is from local coverage. We could merge the early life and personal life sections, until a time that more content is added to justify having a standalone personal life section? Mattythewhite (talk) 21:26, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Effects of Typhoon Yagi in Vietnam

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Moved to mainspace by Wolf20482 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

wolf20482 🐺 (talk) 02:53, 9 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Ayn al-Kurum, Annab

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  • ... that evading the Ottoman authorities' pursuit for leading a local rebellion, the Ibn Shillif brothers found safe haven in the Alawite villages of Ayn al-Kurum and Annab?
  • Source: Winter, Stefan (2016). A History of the 'Alawis: From Medieval Aleppo to the Turkish Republic. Princeton and Oxford: Princeton University Press. p. 135
5x expanded by Al Ameer son (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 180 past nominations.

Al Ameer (talk) 20:07, 13 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Hans Dieter Beck

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Created by Thriley (talk), Grimes2 (talk), and Gerda Arendt (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2130 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 12:11, 11 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The hook is actually interesting, but it lacks focus due to being too long and trying to fit in too many facts into one hook. Suggesting a split into two separate hooks, with the decision on what hook to use to be left to the reviewer:
ALT1 ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) usually used a bicycle to work as a leader of C. H. Beck legal publishing?
ALT2 ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) ran his family business, the C. H. Beck legal publishing house, until the age of 92?
Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:59, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the offers, but how about leaving the fact in that I found most stunning: that the used the bicycle until age 92, a few weeks before he died while in office? + I find the office more interesting when knowing what kind of long-run family tradition there is behind it, and he one of two leaders, from 1973. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:49, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT3 ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) rode a bicycle to work until shortly before his death at the age of 92?
ALT3a ... that Hans Dieter Beck (pictured), one of the two leaders of C. H. Beck, rode a bicycle to work until shortly before his death at the age of 92?
Maybe that? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:22, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for trying, but I'm not happy with wasting characters on mentioning his death, - work at age 92 seems impressive enough, and then in a company-leading function. ALT3a is closer to what I'd like. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 10:25, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I too prefer the original, but it is rather long. How about the following rearrangement:
ALT4 ... that as co-head of the publisher C. H. Beck, Hans Dieter Beck (pictured) rode a bicycle to work until he was 92?
-- Hoary (talk) 23:13, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
ALT4 sounds good and should resolve any concerns with the original hook while still taking into account the nom's wishes. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:50, 15 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sanity Code

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Created by JJonahJackalope (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 61 past nominations.

JJonahJackalope (talk) 15:11, 8 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Blow Up (French TV series)

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  • ... that when the French web series Blow Up briefly aired on television in 2014, its allotted airtime was too short to fit some of its episodes?
  • Source: (in French) "'Blow Up' : les secrets de fabrication du webmag d'Arte" (transl. "'Blow Up': the secrets of the creation of the Arte webmag.") "Elle l'a diffusé une fois, en 2014, pendant six mois. C'était très intéressant, sauf qu'on m'avait imposé une durée de 4,10 minutes par vidéo. Pour certains formats, comme les 'Bio express', je pouvais m'en sortir. Mais pour les 'Top 5', il était impossible de comprimer les séquences." (transl. "It broadcast it once, in 2014, for six months. It was very interesting, except that I was given a duration of 4.10 minutes per video. For certain formats, like 'Bio express', I could get by. But for the 'Top 5', it was impossible to compress the sequences.")
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  • Comment: In the article, the fact is in the second paragraph of § Release. The citation is at the end of that paragraph.
Created by CopperyMarrow15 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

–CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 05:35, 7 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was new enough and long enough at the time of the nomination. QPQ is not needed for a nom with less than five nominations. I did not find close paraphrasing. Assuming good faith on the French sources. The hook and the article don't exactly match: the hook says episodes, but the article says it was formats that couldn't fit. However, given the intent, I'm willing to let it slide since the point is still essentially the same. A reference also has to be duplicated to the relevant sentence supporting the hook fact per WP:DYKHFC. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:05, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Narutolovehinata5, thank you for reviewing my nomination! I have added the citation as you suggested. Regarding your comment about the mismatching terms, the hook and the article are meant to reflect the same fact. As explained in § Overview, episodes of Blow Up come in various formats (e.g. "Bio express" and "Top 5"), so saying "a format" is equivalent to saying "episodes in a format". If you think this wording is confusing, let me know, and I can rewrite the sentence in the article. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 03:42, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I would personally let it slide, but it could potentially become an issue at WT:DYK, so it might be better safe than sorry. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:45, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Ok. I think I will leave it for now because it is concise and it more closely matches the wording in the cited quote. –CopperyMarrow15 (talk – edits) 19:27, 13 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 8

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Directorate General of Higher Education

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Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 67 past nominations.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 18:38, 12 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Temujin Kensu

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  • ... that although nine alibi witnesses placed Temujin Kensu over 400 miles from a shooting in Port Huron, Michigan in November 1986, he was convicted of murder and has been in prison ever since?
Created by Michael D. Turnbull (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 11 past nominations.

Mike Turnbull (talk) 15:17, 12 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Maria McDermottroe

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Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 31 past nominations.

Bogger (talk) 13:34, 9 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 9

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California FAIR Plan

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  • ... that California FAIR Plan could have as much as $30 billion in total losses from the January 2025 Southern California wildfires with only $377 million available to pay out claims?
  • Source: "Because of the fires that started last week, that linchpin may be about to break, with consequences that would reverberate throughout California’s economy. As of last Friday, the FAIR Plan had just $377 million available to pay claims, according to the office of Senator Alex Padilla, Democrat of California. It’s not yet known how much in claims the plan will face but the total insured losses from the fires so far has been estimated at as much as $30 billion. Because the fires are still burning, that number could grow. Unlike regular insurance companies, the FAIR Plan can’t refuse to cover homes just because they’re in vulnerable areas. As a result, as the risk of wildfires grows, homes deemed too dangerous by major insurers have been piling up on the FAIR Plan’s books. Between 2020 and 2024, the number of homes covered by the plan more than doubled, to almost half a million properties with a value that tripled to about half a trillion dollars."
NY Times
Created by Thriley (talk) and KyaniteAl2SiO5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 160 past nominations.

Thriley (talk) 20:03, 17 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Earwig shows two sentences copied directly from california-business-lawyer-corporate-lawyer.com, which I don't think is a reliable source, given their interest on the legal side of this costly disaster. The hook is also misleading, as the FAIR plan article states As of January 17, 2025, the FAIR Plan estimated that it covered 22% of the structures affected by the Palisades Fire, with a potential exposure upwards of $4 billion, and 12% of the structures affected by the Eaton Fire, with a potential exposure of over $775 million - however this can be addressed easily by replacing the $30 billion figure with "nearly 5 billion" or some variant, and ideally "Southern California fires" with the Palisades and Eaton fires specifically. Other than that, the article is just outside of the nomination window (but I'll extend it a bit here). QPQ is done, everything else in the article looks sourced, neutral, and otherwise good enough for DYK, and the hook appears interesting if it could be rephrased - how would you feel about the hook

    ...that the California FAIR Plan could have nearly $5 billion dollars of exposure to damage from the Palisades and Eaton fires while only having $377 million on hand to pay claims?

    I do think this article could be improved to DYK standards relatively easily by swapping out the source (removing its claims in their entirety may take this below the minimum DYK prose length) and fixing the hook to be less misleading. Departure– (talk) 14:54, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

1939 New York World's Fair

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Improved to Good Article status by Epicgenius (talk). Nominated by Bebo12321 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Bebo12321 - Talk 18:56, 9 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 10

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Andrei Demurenko

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  • ... that Andrei Demurenko, the only Russian officer graduate of the U.S. Army Command and General Staff College, served with the Wagner Group in Ukraine?
  • Source: 1. Ivanov, Vladimir (3 April 2009). "Двусторонний самообман – двусторонний проигрыш" [Two-way self-deception is a two-way loss]. Novaya Gazeta (in Russian). Retrieved 9 January 2024. "О нынешнем взаимодействии России и блока рассуждает бывший заместитель командующего миротворческим контингентом ООН сектора Сараево в Боснии и Герцеговине, полковник запаса Андрей Демуренко. Он был единственным офицером, получившим высшее военное образование в Командно-штабном колледже армии США." 2. Cuesta, Javier G. (6 October 2024). "The battle Russia has not yet fought: The mental health of its war veterans". El Pais. Retrieved 10 January 2024.
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  • Comment: I know this is nomination is slightly late, but I'm hoping that could be overlooked. It's not the 18th yet where I am.
Created by Romanov loyalist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Romanov loyalist (talk) 03:44, 18 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Girl in pink jacket

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Created by Mhhossein (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 65 past nominations.

Mhhossein talk 06:15, 16 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough

Policy compliance:

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  • Cited: No - ?
  • Interesting: Yes

QPQ: No - Unsure
Overall: @Mhhossein: While this is an interesting nomination, only one source mentioned in the article spells her name the same way as it is written in the nomination. The Persian language source is used twice, although it is the same, and it mentions "the 'girl in the pink jacket'", which seems to make more grammatical sense in the English language. The article needs more citations from reliable sources. The Atlantic Council source written by Holly Dagres does not mention her name, nor the number of casualties, so different sources should be used to support the lead. What was written by Dagres, although used as a source, is not really mentioned in the article. Although this event was an incredibly sad one, there is not a source I could find on the article that mentions her as a symbol, or a "poignant symbol" as it says in the article. The unveiling of the artwork is unnecessarily mentioned two separate times in the same section. Aneirinn (talk) 18:16, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Mhhossein: Per a rule change several months ago, QPQs now have to be provided at the time of the nomination rather than up to a week after. Please provide a QPQ as soon as possible, as the nomination will be closed if one is not provided. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:07, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Narutolovehinata5: Thanks for the heads up; I was not aware of such a recent rule. I will soon provide a QPQ. --Mhhossein talk 11:03, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • @Aneirinn: Thanks for the review and the points. The QPQ is already provided. There's a verification tag added by you. Do you still think there are challenging portions in the text required to be supported by reliable sources? --Mhhossein talk 12:15, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I do think more citations are needed. Only 3 sources in the article actually mention her. Two from the Tehran Times and one from the Iranian Students' News Agency. Usually, to establish WP:Notability more would be required. Are there more articles about her in Farsi that could be added? Is there anything that mentions what words were written on the body bag in Farsi? If so, this would be helpful as it could be translated to see if it actually says "girl in pink jacket" or "girl in the pink jacket", or "girl with a pink jacket". A source mentioning her as a symbol would also be needed to run this specific hook. Per WP:Verifiability, the source by Dagres would need to be moved somewhere else as it cannot be used to verify what precedes it as it does not mention her name. Aneirinn (talk) 15:32, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Anti-Mosque campaign in India

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Created by Ratnahastin (talk), Jannatulbaqi (talk), and DataCrusade1999 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

- Ratnahastin (talk) 14:07, 15 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The prose needs work, for one thing, @Ratnahastin:. I made several attempts to understand what the article is about from the lead section, but was unable to make heads or tails until I read the entire article. I am also not quite certain that I understand what "evacuation of mosques occupied by non-Muslims" means. This needs further explanation in the article and quite possibly better wording in the hook. Finally, I get a rather strong whiff of bias from the article. Surtsicna (talk) 15:49, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Ratnahastin: Please address the above.--Launchballer 16:29, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

History of the National Hockey League (2017–present)

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Improved to Good Article status by The Kip (talk) and Conyo14 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

The Kip (contribs) 19:10, 10 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Eurowhiteness

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Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 254 past nominations.

(t · c) buidhe 09:55, 10 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • You have to be very careful when referring to things that don't have physical existence like "internal contradictions". Who says the EU has any? Is it Kundnani, writing the book? Is it Auer, reviewing Kundnani? Is it you, user:Buidhe, paraphrasing Auer? DS (talk) 18:12, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. Abstract concepts like "internal contradictions" may be different from concrete objects, but that doesn't mean they don't factually exist—WP says they do if RS agree. While researching the article, I found many sources agreeing and none disagreeing that the EU has some internal contradictions. Per WP:NPOV, "Avoid stating facts as opinions"—and there is no reason to believe that it is not factually true other than your skepticism. (t · c) buidhe 03:40, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • I don't want this to be a debate on either euroskepticism or materialism, but which contradictions are those? Can you cite your sources? What if someone disagrees with your flat statement that contradictions exist? Does Kundnani use the term 'contradictions' in the book, or Auer use them in the review, or is that your interpretation? DS (talk) 19:08, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
        • "Internal contradictions" is the exact phrase used by Auer, but that should not matter because we are encouraged to paraphrase from sources anyway. There are so many sources that say the EU has internal contradictions (please do your own research rather than making assumptions that may be incorrect) that it would certainly be a POV violation to suggest this is just one person's opinion. The only potential objection I can see to the hook is that it's not hook worthy, because all political systems contain conflicting values and interests, leading to internal contradictions (for example, name a political party that doesn't engage in hypocrisy). (t · c) buidhe 19:37, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
You're assuming the validity of the book's political stance, and instead of citing your sources, you're telling me to do my own research. What happens if my research leads me to a political stance that disagrees with (you / the book)? DS (talk) 22:34, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I fundamentally disagree with your approach of conflating facts stated in many reliable sources with a "political stance" and discounting such facts on the basis of your own personal disagreement. Please bring some sources that we could discuss (preferably not cherry picked) or stop commenting. (t · c) buidhe 04:17, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Please cite your sources. "There are internal contradictions in the European Union" is not objectively true or false. You're the one claiming they exist, so the burden of proof is on you. What if we said "the book misleadingly suggests that the EU has contradictions"? What if we said "the book boldly reveals that the EU has contradictions" ? Both sentences are equally true. DS (talk) 04:47, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

This back and forth is clearly going nowhere and no actual review was performed, so I'm requesting another editor's attention. (t · c) buidhe 21:13, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • New enough: yes. Long enough: yes. Article is neutral: it needs some work. Copyvio check: 23%, which is fine. Article is presentable: yes. QPQ: yes. Hook is cited: yes. Hook is short enough: yes. Hook is interesting: not even close. Do you have anything else? DS (talk) 04:50, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@Buidhe: I am willing to review the hook, albeit not this second (later today or tomorrow, if that's alright). In the meantime, I'd ask that you resolve the yellow-level orphan tag. Perhaps there's an article with a "Further reading" or "See also" section where linking this page would be suitable. Hydrangeans (she/her | talk | edits) 09:42, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 11

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2011 Ringgold–Apison tornado

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Created by EF5 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

EF5 02:07, 12 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Three of the four hooks here are cited to Tornado Talk, which I believe is a self-published source, and the only one here that isn't, ALT2, doesn't appear to be the most interesting. Can you find a better source for the others, or new hooks that can be cited better? Alternatively, should I just review ALT2? I'll take a look at article quality later on. Departure– (talk) 18:11, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I really don't see the issue with TornadoTalk. They cite their summaries, something I've said three times now, and so I disagree about the reliability. Although WP:RSPWORDPRESS is flagged as unreliable, it doesn't bring up the reliability of blogs that cite reputable sources. I can still give the sources they use, though, to avoid the whole hassle. EF5 18:41, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@EF5: I'll ask for the sources that back up the claims in question. Tornado Talk is going to be an another discussion for another day. Departure– (talk) 18:47, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fair enough. I'm currently on a school IP, so Internet Archive is blocked, but I'll get to it within the next ~3 hours. :) EF5 18:48, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Here's your source for ALT1. EF5 16:49, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • ALT1 verifies from the source provided. In the interest of keeping this away from WP:ERRORS, I'm going to wait for the sourcing in the article to be migrated away from Tornado Talk (unless a significant direction change occurs at the RSN discussion for that source) before giving my approval. Departure– (talk) 16:57, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Johann Reinhold Forster

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The Forsters in the South Sea
5x expanded by Kusma (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 58 past nominations.

—Kusma (talk) 16:33, 11 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I don't have access to the source, but I'm most interested in ALT0. Could you get a short passage from the book to help verify? It's not clear what was the mistake here, was it Forster's participation in the voyage, or the voyage itself? That January 11 expansion was one hell of an edit. The article is otherwise new enough. Earwig shows 51% for copyvio, but this appears to be excerpts from Forster's journal which is unambiguously public domain by now. I'll complete the rest of the review once you address the hook issue. Departure– (talk) 17:58, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Departure–, thank you for the review! Embarrassingly I actually misquoted this, fixed now. A more extensive quote is "But who is going to envy John Reinhold Forster? We have come to one of the awkward beings of the age, the patently conspicuous phenomenon of the voyage. Let us admit at once, where we can, the virtues of Forster, his learning, the width of his interests, his perceptiveness in some things, the fact that, sunk deep beneath the surface, there was said to be some geniality. Let us admit that the surface itself must have been, at first sight, sometimes impressive—or how else could he have taken in, temporarily, so many excellent persons? Let us concede, as a mitigating factor, that for ocean voyaging no man was ever by physical or mental constitution less fitted. Yet there is nothing that can make him other than one of the Admiralty's vast mistakes. From first to last on the voyage, and afterwards, he was an incubus." The "mistake" here in Beaglehole's eye is to hire Forster as the expedition's scientist. —Kusma (talk) 17:29, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 12

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Series fiction

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Created by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 543 past nominations.

Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 14:23, 18 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Hospital of St. John (Jerusalem)

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  • Source: "According to William, archbishop of Tyre (died c. 1184 ), some merchants from the Italian city of Amalfi asked the caliph of Egypt for a site within Jerusalem where their fellow countrypeople could stay . He gave them a site within the Christian quarter of Jerusalem , near where the Church of the Holy Sepulchre stands." Nicholson 2001, p. 2
Created by Borsoka (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 203 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 17:37, 14 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I'll take this one. --Muhandes (talk) 21:52, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The article is new enough and long enough. It seems well-sourced and neutral. The article is entirely sourced to offline sources, so I cannot say anything about plagiarism, but it seems unlikely.
However, the guidelines require that I verify the basic facts, or at the very least, the existence of the article subject. This, of course, led me to Knights Hospitaller, or the Order of Knights of the Hospital of Saint John of Jerusalem. The relation is not even mentioned in this new article but the first paragraph of Knights Hospitaller#Foundation and early history includes pretty much the same material about the early establishment as this entire new article. I think this omission and confusion needs to be addressed before this subject can appear on DYK. Either this new article need to discuss the continuing history of the hospital, which remained under the same name but different hosts at least until the 13th century (see for example this source which is about the hospital but only says "... since citizens from Amalfi had already operated a facility for accommodating pilgrims at this site under the patronage of St. John") or maybe the new article needs to be merged, since I'm not sure this earlier establishment, which we know so little about, even qualifies for of a separate article.
While I think the above is a substantial issue which needs to be handled first, I'll also address the hook. First, the article does not mention Archbishop William, nor does it say anything about a Shi'ite caliph. Is there a reason not to use the language used in the article, naming William of Tyre and a Fatimid caliph? As for the sourcing, it mentions the "caliph of Egypt", but says nothing about him being Fatimid. Is there some extra reading required? --Muhandes (talk) 23:10, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you for the review, Muhandes. The article does not yet meet the DYK standard of comprehensiveness. It appears that Borsoka has not yet finished it. It had to be nominated within 7 days of creation, however. If the article is not completed soonish, the nomination cannot pass. We'll see. Surtsicna (talk) 23:40, 23 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Transgender health care misinformation

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Improved to Good Article status by Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 00:03, 14 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment - a careful reading of the source shows that the main hook is not explicitly verified. The source says that misinformation has led to policy restrictions on health care for transgender people in the U.S. (instead of minors' transgender health care in the United States and United Kingdom). The source does go on to discuss bans on gender-affirming care for minors and misinformation continues to impact support for these bans, but then misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions is not verified, and the support is not clarified as legislative support or public support. What would be verified is that transgender health care misinformation has been used to justify legislative restrictions on transgender health care in the United States. In any case, a peer reviewed source would be better than the non-profit Kaiser Family Foundation. Also, there is a questionable sentence in the lede to clear up and stuff about Australia too. starship.paint (talk / cont) 13:40, 16 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Hows ALT1 ...that transgender health care misinformation, such as the claim most pre-pubertal transgender children "desist", has been used to justify legislative restrictions on minor's transgender health care? [8] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 16:56, 17 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

ALT2 ... that transgender health care misinformation has been used by authorities in the American states of Alabama, Florida and Texas to justify legislative restrictions on minors' transgender health care? [10] starship.paint (talk / cont) 14:42, 19 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I've got two issues with this ALT. 1) I think it's important to include some specific piece of misinfo 2) The scope seems way too narrow relative to the article - We have the endocrine society saying 18 states banned GAC based on misinfo in 2023[11] and the APA et al saying misinformation about ROGD was involved in many of over 100 proposed anti-trans bills in 2021 [12] - seems weird to pick out 3 states when 26 now ban care. Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Alternatively, ALT3 ... that due to transgender health care misinformation, over 18 states in the United States banned gender-affirming care for minors in 2023, encompassing over 30% of trans children in the country?[13] Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

  • I'd like to workshop ALT1 with you because I do think having a specific example would be educational and a good hook, however, this hook is really engaging as well, better covers the scope of the issue, and with a top tier source that's also more accessible! Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist ⚧ Ⓐ (talk) 01:06, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Your Friendly Neighborhood Sociologist: - ALT3 has a bunch of information not from the source, you really should be more careful not to go beyond what the source says. (a) Source says 18, not "over 18". (b) Source says "gender-affirming care ... even restricting transgender and gender-diverse adults’ access to care", not "gender-affirming care for minors". (c) Source is from 2023, but it doesn't say "in 2023", so maybe the bans could be in 2022 or earlier. (d) Source says "30 percent of the nation’s transgender and gender-diverse youth", not "30% of trans children". (e) Source attributes 30% figure to Human Rights Campaign, so it's not the source's own voice, but you used Wikivoice. (f) Source doesn't explicitly say that the 30% come from the 18 states, logically there could be more states that banned, maybe not from misinformation, but your "encompassing over 30%" directly links the 18 states to the 30%. Having six issues in only one sentence really does not spark confidence (is the rest of the article of the same quality?!) - and should really spark reflection on why this happened. Even more concerning that this came about after I pointed out inaccuracies in the original hook compared to the source! starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • If I were to write ALT3, I would avoid the part attributed to Human Rights Campaign ALT3A ... that due to transgender health care misinformation, 18 states in the United States had banned gender-affirming care by 2023? [14] starship.paint (talk / cont) 08:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Sparkles emoji

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Created by Panamitsu (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 62 past nominations.

―Panamitsu (talk) 02:20, 12 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Reviewing. Cielquiparle (talk) 05:40, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • New enough (submitted within one day of creation), long enough (2894 characters). Well sourced (wasn't familiar with Emojipedia and wasn't able to find an editorial policy, but it appears to be regularly cited across emoji-related Wikipedia entries, Wall Street Journal, etc., and it seems prudent to call it out as a source as many articles do). Doesn't appear to be a problem with close paraphrasing or copyvio per Earwig and spot check via ProQuest. Tone is neutral (controversy regarding "co-optation" of the symbol is not discussed in this article yet but might surface in future if reliable sources are found). QPQ is done. That leaves the hook. It certainly got my attention but I'm stuck on the wording. @Panamitsu: What does "most major software companies" mean? Who decided what "the" set of "major" software companies are? Are we confident that we can back up the claim of "most" when challenged at WP:ERRORS? Cielquiparle (talk) 06:16, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    @Cielquiparle: Thanks for the review. Well the I've taken that from the WSJ's reporting that 7/10 of the largest software companies by market capitalisation use the Sparkles emoji. But now that you bring it up I also have doubts about the wording. I think maybe we should change "major" to "largest" (I've modified the hook to reflect this) but I'm not sure if that solves everything. Any ideas? ―Panamitsu (talk) 06:25, 12 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • As Cielquiparle notes, the hook is interesting but awkward. I would simplify:
Also, instead of a picture, the emoji itself could be used:
Jno.skinner (talk) 01:02, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 13

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Américo Ramos, Ilza Amado Vaz

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Created by BeanieFan11 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 293 past nominations.

BeanieFan11 (talk) 23:45, 20 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Communism in Brazil

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  • ... that due to WWI, the recent push for industrialization had made Brazil a worker-dense country which facilitated the growth of Communism in Brazil?
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Moved to mainspace by Scratchinghead (talk) and Avelludo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

☢️SCR@TCH!NGH3@D (talk) 06:46, 17 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Don't call this a review, but neither of the hooks have the bolded Communism in Brazil articles and are therefore ineligible. As this is a problem with the hooks and not the articles, you can rephrase or come up with new hooks that do link to the article itself.

Articles created/expanded on January 14

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1ES 1927+654

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Artist's concept Matter is stripped from a white dwarf (sphere at lower right) orbiting within the innermost accretion disk surrounding 1ES 1927+654's supermassive black hole
Artist's concept Matter is stripped from a white dwarf (sphere at lower right) orbiting within the innermost accretion disk surrounding 1ES 1927+654's supermassive black hole
Created by Bogger (talk) and Galaxybeing (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 32 past nominations.

Bogger (talk) 11:51, 15 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

1862 Brooklyn riot

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Created by JJonahJackalope (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 62 past nominations.

JJonahJackalope (talk) 16:25, 14 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 15

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Charlottetown meteorite

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Created by Jno.skinner (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Jno.skinner (talk) 01:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @Jno.skinner: New enough and barely long enough. Nominator is QPQ-exempt. I have a observation on the hook: it is absolute that it is the first, but the hook fact article says it could be. This needs resolution or a tweaked hook. Sammi Brie (she/her • t • c) 19:11, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • I was hoping that the qualifier "first known" takes care of this, meaning the first known to science. The article states that a leading scientist in the area of meteorites searched for and failed to find any prior audio recordings of meteorite impacts, saying "It's not anything we've ever heard before. From a science perspective, it's new." Jno.skinner (talk) 22:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

7 Wonders Duel

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Created by CanonNi (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

'''[[User:CanonNi]]''' (talk • contribs) 12:51, 16 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • @CanonNi: Cool choice in article! Reviewing this both as a fan of the game and having written a boardgame article before. So, this passes newness, length, sourcing, neutrality, and QPQ. I spot two issues with it, though:
    1. Both images in § Gameplay are freely licensed, but appear to be derivative works of the boardgame art itself. Unless the game's art is also freely licensed, these images are copyright violations.
    2. § Reception does not mention any critical reception, even though the article cites multiple reviews. WP:DYKCOMPLETE's example of an incomplete article is one on a book missing a plot summary, and this is essentially the flipside of that.
  • As to the hooks, ALT0 is cited, interesting, and appears in the article. ALT1 does not appear in the article, slightly misrepresents the source (the "basically" in there is important hedging we can't just delete), and I don't think is that interesting or unique, since many products have thematic reskins. So I've struck ALT1. I'm happy to approve ALT0 if the two issues above are addressed, though. -- Tamzin[cetacean needed] (they|xe|🤷) 05:14, 18 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Citybus Route 12A

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Citybus Route 12A
Citybus Route 12A
  • Source: [15] (中巴上世紀八十年代停辦12A線後，此路線在1991年由城巴重新開辦，成為城巴首條專營巴士路線，打破市區近60年來僅由兩間專營巴士公司提供服務的格局。After CMB stopped operating route 12A in the 1980s, Citybus reintroduced the route in 1991. It became Citybus' first franchised bus route, and broke the duopoly in the franchised bus market which had been present in the city area for nearly 60 years.)
Moved to mainspace by S5A-0043 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

S5A-0043🚎(Leave a message here) 04:22, 16 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

I propose this hook is at least slightly more interesting:
Jno.skinner (talk) 06:48, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The Prosecutor

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5x expanded by Prince of Erebor (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 29 past nominations.

Prince of Erebor（The Book of Mazarbul） 16:34, 15 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

References

  1. ^ Coward, Harold (2012-02-01). "Indian Muslim Critiques of Gandhi". Indian Critiques of Gandhi. Albany: State University of New York Press. p. 213. ISBN 978-0-7914-8588-0. When the post-Partition turmoil enveloped Delhi, Gandhi went on a six-day fast (January 12–18, 1948) two weeks before his assassination. Abul Kalam Azad went to Gandhi to ascertain Gandhi's terms for breaking the fast, and then Azad addressed a Delhi crowd of about three hundred thousand people to communicate those terms. Without exception they had to do with Muslim needs: the evacuation of mosques by non-Muslims....
  2. ^ Layton, Robert; Thomas, Julian, eds. (2003). Destruction and Conservation of Cultural Property. Routledge. pp. 8–9. ISBN 9781134604982. Joseph Tieffenthaler (1710-85) was the first to suggest the Babri mosque stood near a site associated with Rama's birthplace. His account was translated from the French by Johann Barnoulli in 1788. Tieffenthaler stated that Aurangzeb, last of the six Mughal emperors, 'got demolished the fortress called Ramcot, and erected on the same place a Mahometan temple'.
  3. ^ Das, Anjishnu (2025-01-11). "Mosque-temple rows and elections: A look at 11 disputed sites". The Indian Express. Retrieved 2025-01-16.
  4. ^ "誤判｜82歲許冠文客串演法官 想有動作戲遭甄子丹派檸檬". Ming Pao (in Chinese). 12 December 2024. Retrieved 15 January 2025. 82歲許冠文在甄子丹監製兼主演的新戲《誤判》中客串飾演法官 / 許冠文說︰「我一直想拍動作場面，但以往啲動作戲都落喺許冠傑身上。我今次想演啲動作戲，但又被甄子丹拒絕。 [82-year-old Michael Hui made a cameo appearance as judge in The Prosecutor produced and starred by Donnie Yen. / Michael Hui said, "I have always wanted to film action scenes, but in the past, the action roles all went to Sam Hui. This time, I wanted to have some action scenes, but Donnie Yen rejected.]
  5. ^ 熊景玉 (20 December 2024). "甄子丹高空墜落急送醫 《誤判》1幕頻重拍老闆好心痛". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 10 January 2025. 讓觀眾驚豔的「一個打一百個」的天臺酒吧圍毆重頭戲，甄子丹用到空拍機來拍攝，打手不停上陣的場面。他同時間必需不停和幾十位動作替身輪流交手，難度超級高。他表示這場戲完全不用特效協助，一個鏡頭一路拍下去，「真的很難拍到好，一個40、50人打了幾個通宵。」 [The stunning "one against a hundred" rooftop nightclub fight scene, filmed with drones by Donnie Yen, featuring stunt actors taking turns to fight. He had to continuously engage with several dozens of stunt actors, making it extremely challenging. He stated that the scene required no post-production special effects, filmed in one continuous shot: "It was really hard to get it right, we had 40 or 50 people fighting for several nights."]
  6. ^ "誤判｜解構電影7大冷知識 甄子丹用拳頭、法律 據理力爭伸張正義". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 18 December 2024. Retrieved 7 January 2025. 黃子桓︰我們要找一個演員，演一名充滿幹勁又衝動的警察。記得有同日同子丹食飯，他問我知不知道誰是MC？他說他不認識，但之前在飯局遇見一個MC的fans不斷跟他說偶像的優點，然後子丹播了一首歌給我聽，說MC唱得很好，我們整餐飯就不斷聽MC的歌。子丹說MC的樣子亦正亦邪，適合演衝動警察。 [Edmond Wong: We needed to find an actor to portray a passionate but impulsive police officer. I remember having dinner with Donnie Yen on the same day, and he asked me if I knew who MC (Cheung Tin-fu) was. He said he did not know him, but at a previous dinner party, a fan kept praising MC's qualities. Then, Yen played a song for me, saying MC sings very well, and we spent the whole dinner listening to his songs. Yen mentioned that MC has both a charming and villainous look, making him suitable for the role of an impulsive police officer.]
  7. ^ 熊景玉 (20 December 2024). "甄子丹高空墜落急送醫 《誤判》1幕頻重拍老闆好心痛". Mirror Media (in Chinese). Retrieved 10 January 2025. 《誤判》還有一場保護證人躲避殺手連環追殺，在香港地鐵狹小空間的MMA格鬥設計，劇組為了這場戲以7位數字港幣搭出三節一比一車廂實景 [In The Prosecutor, there is a scene where a witness is hiding from a continuous assassination attempt, featuring MMA fight choreography in the cramped space of the Hong Kong MTR. The production team invested a seven-digit amount of Hong Kong dollars to build three 1:1 scale train carriages for this scene.]
  8. ^ "本報甄雲龍主任片中出演角色 甄子丹《誤判》即將北美上映". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). 3 January 2025. Retrieved 20 December 2024. 甄子丹這回還找來親爸甄雲龍客串演出父子，由於甄雲龍先生是首度演戲，劇組一開始還有些猶豫，「結果他第一天來就把台詞背好，大家還說你爸演得比你更好」。 [Donnie Yen also invited his father, Klyster Yen, to make a cameo as his character's father. Since this was Mr. Yen's first acting role, the crew was initially hesitant. "But on his first day, he memorized his lines, and everyone said he acted better than you."]
  9. ^ 黃庠棻 (7 January 2025). "甄子丹執導新片…找2大咖老友客串！ 「嚴格不給面子」現場曝光". ETtoday (in Chinese). Retrieved 15 January 2025. 甄子丹當導演更不忘力邀好友一起來為電影增色，像是他多年好友呂良偉，更是二話不說，沒有劇本也不知道演什麼就答應到現場客串 [As a director, Donnie Yen did not forget to invite his friends to enrich the film. For example, his longtime friend Ray Lui, agreed to make a cameo without even asking for a script or learning about the story that he is in.]
  10. ^ 華朗 (31 December 2024). "《誤判》｜花4個月搭建可動MTR列車 高等法院場景 金像最佳美術指導王慧茵 1句話要甄子丹坐定定飲水". Sing Tao Daily (in Chinese). Retrieved 10 January 2025. 王慧茵（Renee）的美術團隊有6名女將 [Renee Wong's production design team is comprised of six women.*]

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State Emigrant Refuge and Hospital

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Created by DefeatingLine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

DefeatingLine (talk) 17:49, 23 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

General: Article is new enough and long enough
Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

Hook eligibility:

  • Cited: Yes
  • Interesting: Yes
  • Other problems: No - There is a minor discrepancy between the hook and article. The hook says that the hospital was "reportedly" the largest, and the main body of the article cites a historian as saying that it was the largest, which is fine. However, the lead of the article says "In the 1850s, the State Emigrant Refuge and Hospital was the largest hospital complex in the world", without specifying that it was reportedly the largest or that this was a claim made by a historian. I'd just add "reportedly" to the lead to fix this.
QPQ: None required.

Overall: @DefeatingLine: Nice work on this article. I just had one concern above, but everything else checks out. Epicgenius (talk) 15:14, 24 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

User:Epicgenius Hey, thanks for taking the time to review my nomination! Regarding the issue you identified, the sources cited in the article (including Gotham, pg. 738) all state as fact that the hospital was the largest. I wrote "reportedly" only because I have not myself verified this claim, which was as far as I can tell originally made by historian John Duffy. Following the sources, which all accept this claim, would it therefore be better to remove "reportedly" from the hook as too much of an editorial insertion by myself? I assume I should follow what the sources actually say, which is that it was the largest, even if I can't verify the claim myself with reference to primary sources. Let me know what you think. DefeatingLine (talk) 18:46, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

DefeatingLine, thanks for explaining your reasoning, I appreciate it. I would recommend one of two things. If modern sources all agree that this was the largest hospital complex in the world at the time, which seems to be the case here, then I would remove "reportedly". In a worst case scenario, I would say "that according to one author, from 1853 to 1855 the State Emigrant Refuge and Hospital on Wards Island in New York was the largest hospital complex in the world?" However, if modern sources disagree, I'd explain as such in the article. Epicgenius (talk) 19:48, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell

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  • Source: ORIGIN STORIES: Signage Dept., by Andrew Marantz, in The New Yorker; Vol. 89, Iss. 24, (Aug 12-Aug 19, 2013) (via ProQuest via the Wikipedia Library) (it was surprisingly difficult to find a proper source for "on Jamaica Avenue")
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/South Arcade
  • Comment: Earwig score is high, but that's because I've directly quoted many reviews, and because there are multiple sources analyzing specific lyrics. Also, this should probably be an April 1 hook (if possible, the last one in the set).
Created by DragonflySixtyseven (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

DS (talk) 22:54, 17 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was new enough at the time of the nomination, it is of an appropriate length, and is free from close paraphrasing (apart from the aforementioned false positives). A full QPQ was done. The hook is mentioned in the article and is verified in the sources. While I understand that this was proposed for April Fools Day, I am not convinced that this would make a good AFD hook as the hook itself is rather nonsense, and I'm also not convinced this would make a good quirky either. It might only baffle readers rather than encourage clicks. If possible, can you suggest more "normal" hooks instead? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 09:23, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The hook actually violates WP:PRONOUN, so wouldn't be able to run anyway.--Launchballer 16:36, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yes, but that's the gimmick: the song repeats the line "I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell" over and over. This is why I felt it would be amusing to have as an AFD entry: it's blatantly unlike the rest of them. "That's why there's rules, understand? So that you think before you break 'em." - Lu-Tze DS (talk) 18:30, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
In any case, the original hook isn't going to fly, so please propose more conventional hooks if possible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 01:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Just so I can be sure that I understand you correctly: you're saying that if I want to submit a silly hook for April Fool's Day, it shouldn't be silly? DS (talk) 01:30, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Huh--I'm at the Pizza Hut! I'm at the Taco Bell! WP:IAR--the hook is fine. The song is great. The article is fine. Drmies (talk) 01:33, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Per WP:DYKAPRIL, see "Proper capitalization, title formatting, and linking standards may be disregarded only if adhering to them will tend to give away the joke. This should be done as little as possible. [...] All other Wikipedia rules and guidelines still apply.".--Launchballer 01:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@DragonflySixtyseven: I mean that this is unlikely to run as an April Fools hook, so you should propose more conventional hooks that can run as a regular hook on a non-AFD date. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Explain why you feel it is 'unlikely to etc'. "the hook itself is rather nonsense" - you read the article. You understand what it means. DS (talk) 02:46, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

There are a few issues with the hook. Firstly, even if it were to be accepted as a quirky, the hook is exclusively about a song lyrics. There was an issue before about hooks that were just song lyrics and there was a move to kibosh such proposals since they became overused (Launchballer can explain more about what happened then). Secondly, even without the issue regarding song lyrics hooks, one could argue that the hook as currently written fails WP:DYKFICTION as it's talking about an event that only happens in the context of the song (and thus a work of fiction). Now, one can disagree on the intricacies of DYKFICTION, but that's the current stance here. Thirdly, there are the other issues raised, including WP:PRONOUN. Finally, the hook as read makes no sense to the reader. What does it mean that the speaker is "at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell on Jamaica Avenue"? Well the meaning is self-evident, but what's the context? How is the hook encyclopedic? It may also be worth reading WP:QUIRKY: Note that quirky hooks still need to meet the regular guidelines on sourcing and accuracy: quality and truthfulness should not be sacrificed for the sake of being quirky. I understand you really want this to run on April Fools Day and to use that particular hook, but for various reasons it just doesn't seem feasible. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:20, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
(There genuinely is a combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell on Jamaica Avenue, so it's not fiction.)DS (talk) 03:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
That's a technicality. It would be like having a hook about Fly Me to the Moon that was about flying to the moon playing among the stars, and claiming the hook isn't in-universe because the moon, the stars, Jupiter, Mars, etc. actually exist. The point is that the hook as currently written, and arguably the angle itself, are unlikely to fly. Are you willing to propose completely different hooks/angles? Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 03:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

The reason I used the <small> tag was to indicate that I was "speaking softly" - as in, not making a serious contribution to the conversation. It's humor value. If you genuinely didn't understand that, and also don't understand the hook, then perhaps you're not the best person to be reviewing this one. Can you explain why you don't think "silly and weird" is appropriate for April Fool's Day, without pointing to policy which can be obviated for the sake of IAR? DS (talk) 02:05, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DragonflySixtyseven: For what it's worth, it wasn't just me who objected to the hook but Launchballer as well. I also mentioned above that the hook was unsuitable for several reasons, not all of which was related to it being "nonsense". You, for example, did not acknowledge the concern about DYK's opposition to hooks that are solely song lyrics, nor the one regarding the use of pronouns. April Fools Day is not a blanket justification to ignore all rules, guidelines still have to be followed, as Launchballer mentioned. You are essentially saying we must ignore the rules just because it's AFD, when neither DYK nor AFD work that way. Again, WP:DYKQUIRKY also applies here: regular guidelines still apply even in the case of quirky hooks. Again: are you willing to propose a "normal" hook, or are you not? Because if you are not, the nomination will be marked for closure, as the hook you want is unsuitable and would likely fall under scrutiny at WT:DYK even if another editor were to approve it. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:15, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Oh my goodness. Death by a thousand cuts. Eh, OK. "PRONOUN" applies to article writing; a hook is not an article, so that is not a valid argument. The hook is not nonsense, obviously. I don't see how "Proper capitalization, title formatting, and linking standards" are violated in this hook. I don't know that the hook is "about" a song lyric; one might argue that it is a song lyric, of course, but first of all it's a hook, a shiny thing to attract fish. I've never seen issues with song lyrics, and I doubt that this particular hook is going to open up the floodgates for further abuse, if this is abuse in the first place. "The regular guidelines on sourcing and accuracy" don't seem to be violated here at all (it's sourced, it's accurate), nor are "quality and truthfulness...sacrificed". I mean, how? I think the real complaint here is that it is "in-fiction", but I don't think that's a valid complaint, and as for "missing context", that's another argument I don't really understand if we're talking about hooks. My own DYKs are boring as hell compared to this one, but I did get "DYK that 'sorcery for your vagina' can result in second-degree burns?" on the front page, with 8,500 hits--and what context was there? I still don't see which "regular" guidelines forbid this, and I believe we should let this ride on April Fools. Drmies (talk) 02:36, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
It's not that it could lead to abuse. Rather, there's precedent against such hooks, and I don't see why an exception should be made even if it is for AFD. The "hooks that are just song lyrics" issue was actually quite a big deal on DYK a while back, and there was a discussion about it that ultimately led to such hooks being kiboshed moving forward. I actually do think the hook would do well if it were to run, but just because it's a good hook doesn't mean that guidelines have to be ignored. DYK doesn't work like that, even for AFD let alone for quirkies. You personally may not have an issue with lyrics hooks, but others did, hence the discussions.
This doesn't necessarily mean that the idea behind the hook is unsalvageable, just that the original hook as written is probably unsuitable for DYK. That doesn't rule out proposing more "normal" hooks that still revolve around the general idea about being at the combination restaurant while still following the guidelines. Honestly I'm a bit stunned at the apparent insistence on the proposed hook instead of proposing alternatives or even perhaps a compromise option. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 02:45, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Normally I have no problem with adjusting hooks, with reaching into the article and dragging out another, better fact to serve as a replacement.

Here, however, the point of the song is that it repeats the same line over and over and over and over.

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over, is what the song is about.

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over, is what made the song a success.

Repeating the same line over and over and over, has been mentioned in just about every single review I was able to find of the song (which is, in case you hadn't realized, about repeating the same line over and over and over and over). Some reviews (which I have cited) say that repeating the same line over and over and over and over makes the song meaningless. Other reviews (which I have cited) say that repeating the same line over and over and over and over makes the song much more meaningful. Still others (which I have also cited) say that repeating the same line over and over and over and over makes it simultaneously meaningful and meaningless.

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over is also at the center of the two scholarly analyses I found of the song, which both address the fact that the song repeats the same line over and over and over and over.

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over is what got the band their initial reputation as a novelty act. (I have a cited source for that)

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over is what made the song popular on Tiktok 14 years after its initial status as a smash hit. (I have a cited source for that)

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over is why, when Suri and Vazquez were interviewed by the Village Voice (which is one of my cited sources), Suri said that his five favorite poetic devices are "repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition, and repetition", and Vazquez said that his five favorite poetic devices are "repetition, repetition, repetition, repetition, and plagiarism".

Repeating the same line over and over and over and over... is the joke.

Therefore, the intention of having the hook be yet another example of repeating the same line over and over and over and over, is to imply that there is some sort of ridiculous memetic contagion or something, such that the Interesting Fact that can be extracted from the article and put on display is... another example of repeating the same line over and over and over and over. That's the joke. It's a joke about repeating the same line over and over and over and over.

If the hook is not an example of repeating the same line over and over and over and over, then you have killed the joke, because the joke is about repeating the same line over and over and over and over.

This is why I am intent on having the hook be, specifically, an example of repeating that one line from the song over and over and over and over. Because that is the joke. On a normal day, of course, this would be less than appropriate at best, and flatly unacceptable at worst. But that's why I recommended that it be saved for April Fool's Day. Because that's a day for silliness, and making the DYK hook into yet another example of repeating the line over and over and over and over, is silly.

You mentioned that you don't see why people would click the link, which is an example of repeating the same line over and over and over and over. If one recognizes the song—as a great many people do, because it was very, very, very successful in 2008, and launched Suri and Vazquez's careers, and had a resurgence in popularity on TikTok in 2020, with over 400,000 separate videos that used audio from the song —then one will click on the link because one wants to see what Wikipedia has to say about the song (which is about repeating the same line over and over and over and over). If one doesn't recognize the song, then a modicum of familiarity with Wikipedia's main page will at least enable one to recognize how ridiculously unlike a standard DYK entry it is; combined with the knowledge that it is April Fool's Day, this will lead people to click the link to figure out what the hell is going on. "The mouseover indicates that it's the name of a restaurant?" a putative reader might say. "A Wikipedia article about a restaurant... uh? That's not interesting... except... why is it saying that ''I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell'? That doesn't make sense... Who is 'I'?"

and then, because this would be April Fool's Day, they will click the link to understand what the hell is going on. At which point, they will realize that the hook they were just confused by, is an example of repeating that one line from the song over and over and over and over.

I would also point out that this type of formatting fuckery has been done before, as recently as April Fool's Day 2023.

The one point on which I'm open to negotiation is whether the phrase "on Jamaica Avenue" should be included, because, although the song does specify that Suri and Vazquez are in not just any combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell, but in the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell on Jamaica Avenue, that is not part of the line that gets repeated over and over and over and over; rather, "Jamaica Avenue" is mentioned only six times (as opposed to "I'm at the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell", which occurs 20 times, and I have a cited source for that fact), and only one of those times is in the full phrase "the combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell on Jamaica Avenue". However, I feel that including the phrase "on Jamaica Avenue" makes the hook feel... more "Wikipedia-ish".

And yes, I spent too much time writing that. DS (talk) 23:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

@DragonflySixtyseven: Unfortunately, the hook already has multiple issues, and as mentioned above, April Fools Day is not a blanket reason to disregard or ignore rules. I don't want to sound like a broken record, but even if the "makes sense" issues are ignored, there are still other concerns with the hook. There are the use of the pronoun, its in-universe nature, and again, DYK's disdain for hooks that are purely song lyrics. Indeed, just WP:DYKFICTION alone would be enough to sink the hook since it's talking about a event that takes place within the universe of the song (and thus fails the guideline). DYKFICTION is a guideline that is taken seriously by editors, and the fact that the combination Pizza Hut/Taco Bell exists in real life would not be enough to meet the real-life connection criterion. See my earlier example with Fly Me to the Moon to see what I mean. And no, just because it runs on AFD doesn't mean that actual established guidelines will have to be ignored. AFD does not automatically mean IAR. If you are truly not willing to propose an alternative hook, especially when two editors have objected to the original, then unfortunately the nomination is marked for closure for lack of an acceptable hook. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:38, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Having said that, if you are willing to accept any of these other options:
ALT1 ... that a song whose lyrics primarily revolve around being at a combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell has been used in over 400,000 TikTok videos?
ALT2 ... that a song whose lyrics primarily revolve around being at a combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell has been used in TikTok videos dealing with ADHD and depression?
ALT3 ... that hip hop group Das Racist produced a song whose lyrics primarily revolve around being at a combination Pizza Hut and Taco Bell?
Then the nomination could continue. ALT3 is probably the closest to the original hook's intent, and if that hook could be reworded to make the repeating lyrics aspect, that would essentially solve the original hook's issues and meet the guidelines better, while still ultimately conveying the same hook fact or idea. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 00:59, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
See also Wikipedia talk:Did you know/Archive 193#Piri & Tommy Villiers song hooks. Not my finest hour at DYK, and that is putting it very mildly.--Launchballer 01:06, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Moira Pollock

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Moved to mainspace by DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

DaniloDaysOfOurLives (talk) 13:15, 21 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Point the Finger

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  • ... that in the comic book story "Point the Finger", Robert Crumb calls Donald Trump "one of the most evil men alive"?
  • Source: Worden, Daniel (ed.) (2021). "Introduction: R. Crumb in Comics History". The Comics of R. Crumb: Underground in the Art Museum. University Press of Mississippi. pp. 13-15. ISBN 9781496833808. OCLC 1244620552.
Improved to Good Article status by Viriditas (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 35 past nominations.

Viriditas (talk) 01:58, 23 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 18

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Susan Botti

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 70 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 00:31, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Barbara Neumann

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  • Source: 'In 2019, BYK Additives ... marked the 55th anniversary of the discovery by Dr Barbara Neumann of the extraordinary product known as Laponite (p 256)... The use of Laponite® led to the development of the first non-drip paints. (p 258). Shafran et al., 2020, Clay Minerals (2020), 55, 256–260. https://doi.dx.org/10.1180/clm.2020.35
Created by Chaiten1 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

Chaiten1 (talk) 17:57, 20 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I love seeing articles about women in science, what can I do? It is rather compact, but well structured. I see a photo of her here. Would you upload it as a fair-use image? I would strongly recommend expanding the Laponite article and nominating it alongside this article. It is so close to meeting DYK requirements, and each of the hooks mentions laponite. Surtsicna (talk) 21:08, 20 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thank you - great suggestion, I'll work on this later and ping you when done! Chaiten1 (talk) 08:00, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Surtsicna: thank you again for the suggestions. I have sourced and uploaded an image for Barbara Neumann; I have also expanded the laponite page and completed a second QPQ, so this is now a double hook.Chaiten1 (talk) 21:27, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
I changed the pipes a bit to make it clear that the subject of the second article is not nanomaterials. I love that you went through the effort of obtaining a free image. Did you contact a relative? Have they sent an email permission to the Commons? Surtsicna (talk) 22:01, 21 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Pyramids of Mars

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The story was influenced from earlier mummy films such as The Mummy (1932)
The story was influenced from earlier mummy films such as The Mummy (1932)
Improved to Good Article status by DoctorWhoFan91 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

DoctorWhoFan91 (talk) 21:54, 18 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Hard Out Here (Raye song)

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Moved to mainspace by CatchMe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

CatchMe (talk · contribs) 21:03, 18 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 19

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Dabney Coleman

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  • ... that 9 to 5 actor Dabney Coleman flew to New York City to pursue acting the day after an actor stopped by for a drink?
  • Source: He became an actor because film and stage star Zachary Scott, a friend of his first wife, stopped by for a drink. "I was just struck by the persona of this guy," says Coleman, then 26 and "going nowhere in law school." The next day, he got on a plane, flew to New York and applied to acting schools.[1]
  • ALT1: ... that actor Dabney Coleman lit up a cigarette in the same interview where he revealed he had survived throat cancer, affecting Boardwalk Empire production? Source: Lighting up a cigarette. ... But by the way, I don’t have cancer anymore.[2] In 2011, in the run-up to production of the second season of “Boardwalk Empire,” Mr. Coleman was found to have throat cancer; his scenes were shot quickly, to allow time for his treatment and recovery.[3]
  • Reviewed:
  • Comment: This is my first GA, sorry about being a bit after the deadline here. I should have had these ready before the GA review was done. I considered adding something about "dropping out of law school" to the first hook, but I was trying to keep it short. Also, thanks, Tamzin for the suggestion to hook the cigarette smoking thing.
Improved to Good Article status by Daniel Quinlan (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Daniel Quinlan (talk) 06:58, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Alexander Goehr

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Improved to Good Article status by Gerda Arendt (talk), Aza24 (talk), and Grimes2 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 2131 past nominations.

Gerda Arendt (talk) 06:36, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Alia Fischer

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  • Source: paywalled
Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 371 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:47, 21 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Kasey Morlock

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Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 370 past nominations.

TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 12:14, 21 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 20

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Nagi Nemoto

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Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 71 past nominations.

ミラP@Miraclepine 04:07, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Aquilegia alpina

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An alpine columbine flower
An alpine columbine flower
  • ... that the misidentification of an alpine columbine resulted in the description of a new variant of a species in a different genus?
5x expanded by Pbritti (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 64 past nominations.

Pbritti (talk) 22:05, 20 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article expansion new enough and (just) long enough. The inclusion of the etymologies for columbine and Aquilegia are not normal for a species level page. mosre so the Aquilegia sentences contradict the etymology section on the genus page and should be moved there not dealt with at this article.--Kevmin § 18:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • The hook as presented is not really legible. It needs to be reworded for clarity and precision.--Kevmin § 18:21, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Kerjäläisten valtakunta

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  • ... that when the band Dingo were doing a photoshoot for their 1985 album Kerjäläisten valtakunta in Morocco, local men started patting them on the behind, having mistaken them for women?
  • Source: Norres, Lasse; Nurmi, Paavo (ed.): Kuunaama : tarinoita tähdistä. Espoo: Mistake Media, 2015. ISBN 978-952-681-654-8.
  • ALT1: ... that when the band Dingo were doing a photoshoot for their 1985 album Kerjäläisten valtakunta in Morocco, local men started patting them on the behind, apparently having mistaken them for women?
  • Source: Norres, Lasse; Nurmi, Paavo (ed.): Kuunaama : tarinoita tähdistä. Espoo: Mistake Media, 2015. ISBN 978-952-681-654-8.
5x expanded by JIP (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

JIP | Talk 16:09, 20 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Article was new enough, long enough, and properly sourced at the time of the nomination. A full QPQ has been done. The hook is cited to an offline Finnish source so AGF. However, the actual sentence referring to the hook fact is missing the footnote (which instead only appears at the end of the paragraph); this has to be fixed per WP:DYKHFC. In addition, the hook and the article don't match: the hook states as fact that the local Moroccan men mistook them for women, but in the article, it was instead stated to be speculation. The hook will need to be modified. The article could also benefit from some minor copyedits throughout. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:46, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    • @Narutolovehinata5: I have added a citation to the article at the actual sentence the hook is about. I checked the original source, and Lasse Norres writes that the local men thinking Dingo were women was speculation, not fact. I have added an alternative hook at ALT1 above where I have added the word "apparently" but I'm not sure if the hook is too long. It barely fit into the 200 character limit to begin with when I was originally writing the nomination. JIP | Talk 08:16, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Yeah, both hooks are a bit on the long side. Would it be possible to make them shorter? I'm also not sure if the addition of "apparently" would satisfy my concern about accuracy. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 08:27, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

British Virgin Islands at the 2024 Summer Olympics

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5x expanded by Arconning (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 9 past nominations.

Arconning (talk) 13:40, 20 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Articles created/expanded on January 21

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Mpreg

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  • Source: https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/135/141 in several places, including "These texts explore Sam and Dean as fathers and homemakers, depicting family life, with all its traditional trappings, but without women. When pregnancy is brought into the equation, it brings concomitant narrative and social conventions, resulting in conventional stories set in a very unconventional universe."
  • ALT1: ... that Arnold Schwarzenegger was pregnant in the 1994 film Junior? Source: https://screenshot-media.com/culture/internet-culture/mpreg-erotic-genre/ "In 1994, Arnold Schwarzenegger’s blockbuster hit Junior explored the possibilities of male pregnancy. As part of a fertility research project, Schwarzenegger’s character implanted an embryo onto the wall of his peritoneal cavity—thereby giving birth to a healthy baby girl."
  • ALT2: ... that even mpreg enthusiasts disprove of "ass babies"? Source: https://journal.transformativeworks.org/index.php/twc/article/view/651/544 "One birthing technique that readers are highly unlikely to run across is anal delivery of what is notoriously called an "ass baby." ... Amy said that any author trying to take herself and her writing seriously would not use anal delivery because "the rectum is inherently funny—it wouldn't work for mpreg that wants to be anything other than crack fic""
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Kit Nascimento
  • Comment: I'd appreciate input on the hooks here. I'd like something that doesn't just rely on shock value or "look at those weirdos". I don't love any of these - #1 is slightly misleading, in that the full quote is "conventional stories set in a very conventional universe, #2 focuses entirely on the movie which isn't in conversation with the rest of the mpreg genre, and the last one is rather sensationalist.
Created by Rusalkii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

Rusalkii (talk) 05:18, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Somuk

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Example of Somuk's work
Example of Somuk's work
  • ... that the themes of Somuk's artwork (example pictured) range from the bombing of his island during World War II to the origin of trees and plants?
  • Source: (1) QAGOMA: "In Shooting allies, Somuk captures the loss of human life on Buka Island during World War Two"
(2) Nature Sciences Sociétés: "Dessin par Somuk, de Buka aux Iles Salomon, représentant l’origine des arbres et des plantes et leur relation aux généologies humaines"
Moved to mainspace by ITBF (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 23 past nominations.

I T B F 📢 23:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Lamtiur Andaliah Panggabean

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Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 68 past nominations.

Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 02:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

@Pbritti: The above review might not be considered complete enough by other DYK editors, so I'd suggest expanding it to mention all the DYK criteria. In addition, the hook mentions a subject without an article, which is discouraged by other editors. Maybe something like "... that the scientific name of a species of crustacean is a portmanteau of ambassador..." might work? It would make for a slightly longer hook, but it might address any possible concerns. Besides, the mention of the actual name might not be necessary to show the hook fact anyway. Narutolovehinata5 (talk · contributions) 06:49, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The above review seems incomplete because it isn't finished and is pending the provision of a more adequate hook. I would encourage Jeromi Mikhael to take Narutolovehinata5's advice and produce an ALT1 that looks approximately like what was suggested. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:08, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
The article is long enough, sourced adequately, and provisioned with an acceptable image. The only barrier I'm seeing is the inadequacy of the hook. It's not explicitly needed to get this through DYK, but also consider adding the bit about her also being the ambassador to Moldova to the lead. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
@Pbritti and Narutolovehinata5: How about ALT1: ...that the scientific name of a species of crustacean is a portmanteau of ambassador Lamtiur Andaliah Panggabean and her two children? Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 10:52, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Elon Musk gesture controversy

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Created by SolxrgashiUnited (talk), Maykiwi (talk), and Crelb (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 211 past nominations.

Surtsicna (talk) 01:48, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Comment. I'm not wholesale opposed to this article running on DYK (subject to the deletion nomination), but I think the three hooks presented all have issues, mostly to do with neutrality/WP:DYKHOOKBLP. I don't think we should be running any hooks that are in the format "Living Person X is under criminal investigation", because that effectively amounts to an implication of wrongdoing and, unlike news outlets, we don't rerun a blurb if the person being investigated is absolved. ALT1 seems to be more about Musk's views on Wikipedia than the boldlinked article; the quote from Jimmy Wales is currently not even mentioned in the article, so we have an instance where the hook is actually more informative than the article it links to. I'm also biased against "meta" hooks that reference Wikipedia in general although there's no policy against it. With ALT2, I don't really see a circumstance in which someone tagging a public figure with a neurodevelopmental disorder can be presented neutrally as a hook. I T B F 📢 12:31, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment. Proposing new hooks as not a fan of ALT2 for above reasons, nor a the sort of self-promotion in ALT1. I think these are much more neutral as a statement of fact than a personal opinion. Edit: Also adding ALT4 as another fact over negative opinion, while tying a GA into the mix.
ALT3: ... many Reddit moderators banned links to X in protest of Elon Musk's straight-arm gesture? Source: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c77r1p887e5o
ALT4: ... that the anti-Brexit activist group, Led By Donkeys, projected an image of Elon Musk's straight-arm gesture onto a Tesla Gigafactory in Berlin? Source: https://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/films/news/snl-elon-musk-michael-che-nazi-salute-b2686731.html

Didacts and Narpets

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Max Roach
Max Roach
Created by HumanxAnthro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 7 past nominations.

User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 22:31, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

William Bartram (Pennsylvania politician), William Bartram (North Carolina politician)

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Created by Aneirinn (talk). Number of QPQs required: 2. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

Aneirinn (talk) 07:00, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

Reviewing:-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Nien-Hsi Yang

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Created by Butterdiplomat (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

Butterdiplomat (talk) 19:39, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


Articles created/expanded on January 22

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CSS-10 (aircraft)

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  • ... that despite passing its state trials, production of the 'CSS-10 did not take place due to the license for production of its engine having been abandoned?
  • Source: Němeček, Václav (1971). "Monografie: CSS-10". Letectví a Kosmonautica (in Czech). Vol. XLVII, no. 6. pp. 233–234.
Moved to mainspace by Nigel Ish (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 239 past nominations.

The Bushranger One ping only 02:27, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

JakeFuture27

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JakeFuture27 in 2024
JakeFuture27 in 2024
  • ... that online streamer JakeFuture27 occasionally engages in donation drives and charitable functions for underprivileged children, which has earned him immense praise from fans and viewers?
  • Reviewed:
Moved to mainspace by JoleBruh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

JoleBruh (talk) 04:04, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Hello @JoleBruh:. WP:DISTRACTIFY at minimum will need to come out of this BLP as it comes up red on WP:UPSD; I've already taken out WP:SPORTSKEEDA, a Twitter ref that doesn't check out, a section that violated WP:UNDUE (if the source doesn't put it in prose we also shouldn't), and much of the lead including the hook, which was unsourced and almost certainly violates WP:NPOV. Of the remaining sources, what makes Deltias Gaming, Essentially Sports, Dot Esports, and The Express Tribune reliable?--Launchballer 17:08, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Fatma Al Sharshani

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Created by Lajmmoore (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 117 past nominations.

Lajmmoore (talk) 20:37, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Recent, well-sourced, interesting... but not long enough. While it consists of some 1750 characters, it is fewer than 1400 characters long when the lead is taken out. Because the lead repeats the content of the only section, it means that the article has fewer than 1400 characters of unique content. I also wonder if any effort has been made to find a photograph of the subject or of some of her work. I see a photo on Flickr. Surtsicna (talk) 09:35, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Roger Tocotes

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Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

Serial (speculates here) 19:42, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • The article is new enough, long enough, and of excellent quality. The hook needs some polishing, though. Given that most historians do not believe that the duchess was poisoned, we should probably describe the executed servants as alleged poisoners. I like how the hook can be read as saying that the king investigated the duke for the poisoning of the duchess (despite it not saying that). Instead of "aiding and abetting" I think we should try the simple "involvement" and perhaps indicate that it was the duke who suspected/accused/persecuted him. Surtsicna (talk) 22:47, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

John Stacy (alchemist)

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Created by Serial Number 54129 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 45 past nominations.

Serial (speculates here) 19:16, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • I ran to the talk page to see if you had nominated the article as soon as I saw it created. New, long enough, well-sourced, and brilliant. Please do try to compose a Suffolk murder hook! It is too good not to give it a shot. Take your time. Surtsicna (talk) 20:22, 22 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Tomodachiga Yatteru Cafe

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  • ... that there is a cafe in Japan where you can order "the one I always drink" even if it is your first visit?
Created by 狄の用務員 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

狄の用務員 (talk) 12:07, 22 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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Articles created/expanded on January 23

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Louise Beach

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  • ... that Louise Beach co-arranged O Shenandoah! And Other Songs from the New World, a viola education book aimed at children?
Moved to mainspace by Miraclepine (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 53 past nominations.

paul2520 💬 21:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

  • Looks like this nomination skirted in just in time, so good job getting it done. Please complete your QPQ ASAP. Looking at the article broadly, length is good, sourcing seems adequate, and no images makes that part easy. I think the hook isn't terribly good, though. Consider jazzing it up by yanking the book title and noting the that her varied career has included composing at the highest level and children's book writing. ~ Pbritti (talk) 22:02, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
Thanks for the feedback, Pbritti. Just completed my QPQ review.
How's this for an alternate hook?
ALT1: ...that the music career of Louise Beach has ranged from nationally-recognized composition to children's book about the viola?
Let me know! = paul2520 💬 16:26, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

Naide Gomes

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Naide Gomes at the 2009 World Championships in Athletics
Naide Gomes at the 2009 World Championships in Athletics
  • ... that retired track and field athlete Naide Gomes (pictured) holds 21 Portuguese championship titles and 6 national records?
  • ALT1: ... that retired track and field athlete Naide Gomes (pictured) holds 21 Portuguese championship titles and 3 Portuguese national records? Source: Same as ALT0.
  • ALT2: ... that Portuguese retired track and field athlete Naide Gomes (pictured) holds 21 national championship titles and 3 national records? Source: Same as ALT0.
  • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Tamang Panahon
  • Comment: The number of national records can be changed to 3 if her São Toméan records are omitted (ALT1). I'm not sure how to reword the hook though without being redundant, i.e. "21 Portuguese national championship titles and 3 Portuguese national records." ALT2's wording isn't very precise either because "national records" could still include her São Toméan ones.
    • Improved to Good Article status by Yue (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 30 past nominations.

    Yue🌙 08:45, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • I was the GAN reviewer, so I won't do this DYKN review, but I would like to propose ALT3 to give another option:
      ... that Naide Gomes (pictured) broke the Portuguese long jump record fourteen times in her career, raising it from 6.56 metres to 7.12 metres?
    It's based on this source. – Editør (talk) 19:24, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]


    Jewish customs of etiquette

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    • Source: Morell, Samuel (1995). "Review: Sperber, "A Commentary on Derech Ereẓ Zuta 5-8" (Reviewed Work: A Commentary on Derech Ereẓ Zuta: Chapters Five to Eight by Daniel Sperber)". The Jewish Quarterly Review. 85 (3/4). University of Pennsylvania Press: 445. doi:10.2307/1454738. JSTOR 1454738.
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I will fulfill my QPQ obligation by reviewing the article Yuval Raphael.
    Created by Davidbena (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    Davidbena (talk) 14:13, 24 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    David Szymanski

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    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: User:Sebbog13 created the original Draft article. After it was deleted, User:Ktkvtsh recreated the Draft and moved it to mainspace. User:Queen of Hearts then copied the exact text over from the original Draft into the article that Ktkvtsh created.
    Created by Sebbog13 (talk) and Ktkvtsh (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Sebbog13 (talk) 23:59, 23 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Operation Dugo

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    • ... that Operation Dugo is observed on 18 January by eating falafel? Source: https://www.ynetnews.com/article/bjgrbggo2 "Since then, every January 18, thousands of people in dozens of countries join in Operation Dugo to celebrate the triumph of life by eating falafel"
      • ALT1: ... that Operation Dugo commemorates the death march from the Auschwitz concentration camp by eating falafel on 18 January? Source: https://13tv.co.il/item/news/domestic/internal/f5eut-903640574/ "החליט לציין מדי שנה את יום יציאתו לצעדת המוות באכילת פלאפל" (translation: [he] decided to commemorate the day he left for the death march by eating falafel) "בתי ספר רבים ברחבי הארץ והעולם לומדים בו על צעדת המוות" (translation: [in this day] many schools in the country [Israel] and around the world study the death march" https://www.davar1.co.il/169884/ "מאז הוא מציין את ה-18 בינואר, יום תחילת הצעדה, במנה פלאפל" (translation: since then he commemorates 18 January, the day the match began, with a falafel meal")
      • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Hospital of St. John (Jerusalem)
      • Comment: Although the ideal date for this DYK would have been January 18, I just missed it and am aware of the six-week limit for holding it until next year. However, my health does not allow me to wait a full year before publishing this article, so here it is.
    Created by Muhandes (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 15 past nominations.

    Muhandes (talk) 23:13, 23 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Théodore Beck

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    • ... that the Lutheran pastor Théodore Beck employed modern education methods at the École alsacienne in Paris in the 1880s: no prizes, no corporal punishment?
    Created by Drmies (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 226 past nominations.

    Drmies (talk) 22:57, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Dale Carson

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    Jacksonville Sheriff Dale Carson
    • Source: "Dale took those two agencies and created a masterpiece, the Jacksonville Sheriff's Office. He was exactly the right man for the job. He did not tolerate any type of misconduct or corruption."
    Created by Mgreason (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 34 past nominations.

    Mgrē@sŏn (Talk) 17:59, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Alan Wills (record label founder)

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    Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 17 past nominations.

    Jonathan Deamer (talk) 21:33, 24 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on January 25

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    Flying saucer

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    Flying saucer on a 1929 science fiction magazine
    • ... that many aspects of flying saucers (example pictured) first appeared in science fiction?
    • ALT1: ... that the circular shape of typical flying saucers may be due to reporters misunderstanding the first eyewitness's "saucer-like" description of motion? Source: Garber, Megan (15 June 2014). "The Man Who Introduced the World to Flying Saucers". The Atlantic. Retrieved 14 July 2024. ARNOLD: [...] 'They said that I said that they were saucer-like; I said that they flew in a saucer-like fashion.' [...] Some argue that the entire idea of a flying saucer was based on a reporter's misunderstanding of Arnold's "like a saucer" description as describing a saucer itself—making it "one of the most significant reporter misquotes in history." A 1970 study reviewing U.S. newspaper accounts of the Arnold UFO sighting concluded that the term had been introduced by an editor or headline writer, since the bodies of the early Arnold news stories didn't mention "flying saucers" or "flying discs."
    • ALT2: ... that the U.S. government and General Mills launched thousands of spy balloons in the 1950s that were widely reported as flying saucers? Source: Baker, Nicholson (31 January 2024). "No Aliens Haven't Visited the Eart". Intelligencer. Retrieved 9 October 2024. As these "Skyhook" balloons got bigger, they floated everywhere, sometimes thousands of miles away, sometimes across oceans, and wherever they went, people saw flying saucers.
      So successful were the new balloons that by the mid-1950s, General Mills, flooded with military- and CIA-funded contracts, built a balloon factory in St. Paul twice as big as the old one. Nearly 400 people worked there, making 6,000 gigantic balloons and half a million smaller ones per year.
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Brian David Gilbert
    • Comment: The image is only included for the first hook about science fiction. The first eyewitness, Kenneth Arnold, did draw sketches but they don't make a great thumbnail. The article could probably support some pretty odd hooks, but I think these three meet NPOV for the main page without needing to lean on the added context from the article itself.
    Improved to Good Article status by Rjjiii (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    Rjjiii (talk) 04:52, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Support in general. First wording is the fact I like best. I'm not familier with DYK, but if appropriate, we could go a little further: "DYK ... that science fiction featured flying saucers (example pictured) for decades before the first eye-witness reported seeing one?" Feoffer (talk) 13:21, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Geneva Window

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    Harry Clarke's "Geneva Window"
    Harry Clarke's "Geneva Window"
    Created by Bogger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 33 past nominations.

    Bogger (talk) 12:09, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough
    Policy: Article is sourced, neutral, and free of copyright problems

    Hook eligibility:

    • Cited: Yes
    • Interesting: Yes
    • Other problems: No - This hook could be rewritten to be a bit easier to parse. I think emphasizing the main irony (that it wasn't installed in Geneva despite being called Geneva Window) would work better - how about: "...that Harry Clarke's Geneva Window (pictured) was never installed in Geneva because of the "grave offense" it might cause?"
    Image: Image is freely licensed, used in the article, and clear at 100px.

    QPQ: No - Please link a review to pass this
    Overall: Overall, good article and good nomination, just needs QPQ and the hook is a bit difficult to read.

    However I personally found that the article could use a bit of expansion on some sections, such as the description of the subject matter of the work, and in clarifying the bit that says the window was "too controversial in nature, by virtue of the subject matter more than the images themselves to be approved." This is just a suggestion since it already meets the DYK requirement for length. Luiysia (talk) 20:24, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    New Krishna Bhavan

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    Moved to mainspace by Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Wilhelm Tell DCCXLVI (talk to me!/my edits) 09:38, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Grace Beyer

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    Moved to mainspace by TonyTheTiger (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 372 past nominations.

    TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 15:50, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    ALT1... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer scored at least 29 points in all four games against NCAA Division I opponents?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 16:43, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    ALT1... that NAIA career scoring record-holder Grace Beyer holds several school records for assists?-TonyTheTiger (T / C / WP:FOUR / WP:CHICAGO / WP:WAWARD) 17:44, 26 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Documented (news organization)

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    • ... that Documented is the first non-Chinese newsroom in the United States with a WeChat account?
    Created by MSG17 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 8 past nominations.

    MSG17 (talk) 21:16, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Eosalmo

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    Eosalmo driftwoodensis
    Eosalmo driftwoodensis
    • ... that fossils of the salmon Eosalmo (pictured) were dressed in latex that was salted afterwards for study?
    • Source: Wilson and Li 1999 Figs 3 & 4 "photos of two black latex casts dusted with ammonium chloride"
    • ALT1: ... that the fossil salmon Eosalmo (pictured) likely never migrated to the ocean? Source: Wilson 1996 Life in Stone (pg 216-217) and The Eocene fishes of Republic, Washington (pg 30-31) "The presence of both large and small specimens of Eosalmo found together at some localities in British Columbia also seems to confirm the idea that primitive salrnonids spent their whole lives in fresh water"
    • Reviewed: Template:Did you know nominations/Aquilegia barykinae
    • Comment: using the review of Aquilegia amurensis from the nomination for this nomination; 5x expansion started Jan 19th
    5x expanded by Kevmin (talk) and Geekgecko (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 364 past nominations.

    Kevmin § 18:00, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • One obvious issue with the main hook; it is grammatically inaccurate. The "was" in-between "tax" and "salted" is clearly meant to be "and". Both hooks are objective, at least. To tell you the truth, the ALT hook is also more interesting, as (although I am not knowledgeable enough in geology to claim) the main hook probably describes the general process of fossil discovery and study. There are strong signs right off the bat in other areas, though.
      • It passes the 1,500 new-text minimum with flying colors. The article before the expansion had 1,500 characters. The beginning section alone having 2,400 alone, not counting other sections that are a little longer or half as long as it.
      • The image accompanying the hook and the article is free, being self-uploaded and taken by the nominator, an experienced geology photographer.
      • The review he is was last month, making it very recent. Given that this is the only nomination of Kevmin's since that review, four more can be done by the user before reviewing another DYK.
    • Will review the main article's writing after reading it in depth. User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 16:28, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    The use of latex peels to gain insight into fossils is limited to certain fields of vertebrate paleontology, usually those dealing with small bones/features which will preserve even on compression impression fossils. Its not a well known process and the wording was chosen to be true to the sourcing while evoking images of food dressing or clothing. Several of the fossils (four at least) were treated that way, with the latex peel being removed and the ammonium chloride dust spread on the latex, not the fossil, which is what an "and" in that part of the hook implies.-Kevmin § 22:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Gotcha. User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 22:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    With regard to the citations and Wilsons initials, I picked up the citations from other wiki articles where differing editors have give different amounts of space to middle name initials (which authors over time are prone to give varying amounts of as well. I have standardized the four citations to M. V. H.--Kevmin § 22:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Interesting. Anyway, good job fixing it! User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 22:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    IMPORTANT NOTE: The review he is was last month, making it very recent. Given that this is the only nomination of Kevmin's since that review, four more can be done by the user before reviewing another DYK., this statement is not at all accurate to DYK rules. Once a nominator has 5 or more nominations, EVERY nomination they submit must be accompanied by a QPQ review that is at least in progress or preferably fully followed to success or failure. Its not one QPQ for every 5 nominations as the quoted text implies.--Kevmin § 22:00, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
    Boy, did I get a different impression from reading that guideline. Could just be me, though. Anyway, thanks for the clarification! User:HumanxAnthro (BanjoxKazooie) 22:21, 27 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]
      • Some more comments. So far, the article at least links all of the jargon readers may not understand, and I did understand what was going on thanks it, so readability is good. May I ask for the ALT hook, how what is said in the source supports it? As someone not versed in geology, is there a difference between "fresh water" and in "the ocean" and why being at localities means they probably were not in the ocean?
    There is a great deal of difference between Lake sedimentation, river sedimentation, and ocean sedimentation. The flora, fauna, and rock structures of the fossil sites are all in agreement that the Eocene Okanagan Highlands are a series of upland/mountain lake systems which were the same elevation or higher 50 MYA than they are now. If the fish were Anadromous as most non-trout salmoids are today, we would not find a full range of young juveniles though full adults within the same sediments.--Kevmin § 17:00, 28 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Charlton Hunt

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    Created by Sahaib (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 36 past nominations.

    Sahaib (talk) 15:57, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    References

    1. ^ Byrne, Bridget (May 21, 2002). "Coleman cares about 'Guardian'". The News & Observer. Associated Press. Retrieved June 5, 2024.
    2. ^ Harris, Will (October 23, 2012). "Dabney Coleman on Boardwalk Empire and why WarGames doesn't make sense". The A.V. Club. Archived from the original on June 1, 2022. Retrieved June 1, 2022.
    3. ^ Flaherty, Mike (May 17, 2024). "Dabney Coleman, Actor Audiences Loved to Hate, Is Dead at 92". The New York Times. Archived from the original on June 2, 2024. Retrieved May 20, 2024.
    4. ^ Johnson, E. Polk (1912). A History of Kentucky and Kentuckians: The Leaders and Representative Men in Commerce, Industry and Modern Activities: Volume 3. Lewis Publishing Company. p. 1488.
    5. ^ Ramage, James A. (2014). Rebel Raider: The Life of General John Hunt Morgan. University Press of Kentucky. p. 264. ISBN 9780813146331.
    6. ^ Sturtevant, A. H. (1959). "Thomas Hunt Morgan" (PDF). National Academy of Sciences. Archived (PDF) from the original on November 30, 2024. Retrieved January 25, 2025.

    Museum Music

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    • ... that to promote his album Museum Music, Edward Skeletrix held an exhibition during which he sat inside a glass box?
    • Reviewed:
    Moved to mainspace by CarbonLollipop (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    CarbonLollipop talk┊contribs 11:18, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    1990 Serbian general election

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    Improved to Good Article status by Vacant0 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 14 past nominations.

    Vacant0 (talk • contribs) 22:17, 25 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on January 26

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    Malibu Feed Bin

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    • Source: "Why else would anyone want to steal 23 tons of dog food? The dog food was stored in bags, each containing 50 pounds, in a trailer behind the Malibu Feed Bin market in Topanga Canyon." –Napa Valley Register
    • Reviewed: Mosawo
    • Comment: The article is currently the subject of an ongoing deletion discussion, so I'm aware that the article can't be promoted until that discussion is closed.
    Created by Alladode (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 55 past nominations.

    Sky Harbor (talk) 23:01, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Leibel Bergman

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    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I can clean up the references, etc. if the basic structure of the article is determined to be good enough. Thanks for reviewing.
    Created by Prezbo (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Prezbo (talk) 08:26, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Deoksugung

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    Deoksugung
    Deoksugung
    5x expanded by Seefooddiet (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    seefooddiet (talk) 07:34, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Rosalind Gefre

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    Created by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 24 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 04:40, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    More than Life (Machine Gun Kelly song)

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    Improved to Good Article status by Locust member (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Locust member (talk) 21:17, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • Article seems more than ready for DYK, but the hook prbably shouldn't be passing off Glaive's own opinion as fact. I would simply work the quote ("It was so good that he had to change his verse...") into the hook. Let me know when that's done! Cheers, KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 17:02, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Simeon Barclay

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    • ... that artist Simeon Barclay's "sculpture of a chicken on its own little mini-mountain" references a traditional Indian game? Source: Timeout: "Simeon Barclay, ‘Pittu Pithu Pitoo’. One of the UK’s smartest young conceptually-focused artists, Simeon Barclay’s sculpture of a chicken on its own little mini-mountain is meant to symbolise being on the outside, the periphery, never managing to be accepted."The Yorkshire Post: "The sculpture’s form and title relate to an ancient traditional Indian game played by the artist in his youth. Played by two teams, it involves a pile of seven precariously assembled stones and a ball."
    Created by Jonathan Deamer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 18 past nominations.

    Jonathan Deamer (talk) 18:02, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Jake Brown (footballer)

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    Created by Kingsif (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 133 past nominations.

    Kingsif (talk) 03:45, 26 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]


    Articles created/expanded on January 27

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    Backyard Football (video game)

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    Moved to mainspace by Soccer Tees (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Soccer Tees (talk) 18:18, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Semiaquilegia adoxoides, Semiaquilegia, Paraquilegia, Isopyrum, Paraquilegia uniflora, Paraquilegia microphylla, Paraquilegia caespitosa, Paraquilegia anemonoides

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    Paraquilegia microphylla plant
    Paraquilegia microphylla plant
    Created by Pbritti (talk). Number of QPQs required: 8. Nominator has 66 past nominations.

    Pbritti (talk) 20:43, 27 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on January 28

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    Phoenician shipwrecks of Mazarrón

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    Improved to Good Article status by Elias Ziade (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 41 past nominations.

    el.ziade (talkallam) 21:16, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Yu Xiangdou

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    • ... that unlike most other publishers at the time, Yu Xiangdou enjoyed including illustrations of himself in his works?
    • Source: Extensively discussed in Son, Suyoung (2022). "Publisher at Work: Yu Xiangdou's Self-Images". Harvard Journal of Asiatic Studies. 82 (1): 37–76. doi:10.1353/jas.2022.0003.
    Created by Kingoflettuce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 179 past nominations.

    KINGofLETTUCE 👑 🥬 17:06, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Soepojo Padmodipoetro

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    • ... that Soepojo Padmodipoetro became the dean of the Gadjah Mada University economics faculty while still being registered as a student in the faculty? Source: "... Dekan FE UGM (1963) merangkap Pembantu Rektor Bidang Administrasi dan Keuangan (1964). Artinya, pada saat bersamaan, namanya masih terdaftar sebagai mahasiswa di FE UGM." Siregar, Sori; Mardanus, Dody (1999). 50 tahun UGM: di seputar dinamika politik bangsa (in Indonesian). LP3ES. p. 63.
    Created by Jeromi Mikhael (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 69 past nominations.

    Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    2025 U.S. Open Cup

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    Converted from a redirect by SounderBruce (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 247 past nominations.

    SounderBruce 06:19, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • The article is new enough, long enough, and sourced adequately. The hook is sourced but simply uninteresting: most tournaments of this sort exclude teams and 16 is a decently common number in tournaments. Please propose an alternative hook. QPQ pending. ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:47, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Hennepin Avenue Bridge

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    Father Louis Hennepin bridge
    Father Louis Hennepin bridge
    5x expanded by Darth Stabro (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 26 past nominations.

    ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 05:42, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Fine with that and have changed for this hook and also at Template:Did you know nominations/Hennepin Avenue Bridge (1888), and will also participate in the other discussion you started. ~Darth StabroTalk • Contribs 17:12, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Fitton Cave

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    • ... that Fitton Cave is the second most biodiverse cave in Arkansas?
    Created by Kingsmasher678 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Kingsmasher678 (talk) 03:23, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    @Departure–:, I do not believe so, but that is largely because of the small nature of WP:CAVES. I can still source the fact that it is the longest, if you want a "better". In this ref https://legacy.caves.org/pub/journal/PDF/V68/v68n3%20Graening.pdf, the cave is stated to be 43999 feet long, which is 8.3 miles, comparred to Blanchard Springs Caverns, which we have as being 8.1 miles. Kingsmasher678 (talk) 15:09, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    American Football (1999 album)

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    Improved to Good Article status by LunaEclipse (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 16 past nominations.

    💽 🌙Eclipse 💽 🌹 ⚧ (she/they) talk/edits 21:37, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • GA recent enough. Article long enough, well sourced, and with appropriate fair-use image. Hook is cited adequately but I would appreciate the article doing something to explain what "tripled" means in this context. Otherwise, looks good. ~ Pbritti (talk) 13:53, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    Marvel Cinematic Universe: Phase Two

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    Improved to Good Article status by ZooBlazer (talk), Adamstom.97 (talk), Facu-el Millo (talk), and Favre1fan93 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 10 past nominations.

    -- ZooBlazer 19:28, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Transportation during the 2024 Summer Olympics and Paralympics

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    Improved to Good Article status by Hawkeye7 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 438 past nominations.

    Hawkeye7 (discuss) 18:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Yuika (singer)

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    • ... that Yuika persuaded her parents to allow her to take a music-related course after they listen to one of her songs?
    Created by Miminity (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 6 past nominations.

    Warm Regards, Miminity (Talk?) (me contribs) 15:32, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Michal Pivoňka

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    5x expanded by HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 85 past nominations.

    HickoryOughtShirt?4 (talk) 13:54, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Cheng Lianzhen

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    Created by Toadboy123 (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 46 past nominations.

    Toadboy123 (talk) 12:24, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    General: Article is new enough and long enough

    Policy compliance:

    • Adequate sourcing: Yes
    • Neutral: No - I'm a bit concerned about the hook, since in the article it was stated that the comment was "with a touch of humor" - does this have any implication that Mao Zedong didn't really thought that was the case? Furthermore, the source cited is from a government source - are there any guarantee on its credibility?
    • Free of copyright violations, plagiarism, and close paraphrasing: Yes
    Hook: Hook has been verified by provided inline citation
    QPQ: Done.

    Overall: Regards, Jeromi Mikhael 11:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

      • @Jeromi Mikhael Regarding the 'touch of humor', I think its just Mao was using humor to soften a serious point as sometimes, he is known to use humor as to make a controversial or bold statement more palatable especially as Cheng was a well-known bandit and Mao had to consider unity among ethnic groups in China when considering her case. Regarding the question of using source, I also have included another source about the hook about Cheng from a website run by China Buyi Network, an organization which is responsible for maintaining historic and cultural aspects of Buyi people in China [34]. - Toadboy123 (talk) 12:09, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Ten no Hate Made – Poland Hishi

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    Improved to Good Article status by Piotrus (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 544 past nominations.

    Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here 06:45, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    • I'm not sure what's meant by "legally published", it makes it seem like manga was banned in Poland but that doesn't seem to be the case. From the article it seems to be the first manga published with the author's permission. I would consider a simpler hook (perhaps eliminating the "first" claim) because it doesn't add interest that one of the first publications in a genre generates more popularity for it. (t · c) buidhe 03:07, 30 January 2025 (UTC)[reply]

    The Corner That Held Them

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    • Source: Warner, Sylvia Townsend (1983). Maxwell, William (ed.). Letters. New York: Viking. p. 78.
    • Source: Robert L. Caserio, The Novel in England, 1900–1950: History and Theory (New York: Twayne, 1999).
    • Ellmann, Maud (2017). "Everyday War: Sylvia Townsend Warner and Virginia Woolf in World War II". NOVEL: A Forum on Fiction. 50 (1): 77–96. ISSN 0029-5132.
    Improved to Good Article status by Luiysia (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 5 past nominations.

    Luiysia (talk) 20:29, 28 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Articles created/expanded on January 29

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    Amazonas, o maior rio do mundo

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    A frame from the film
    • Source: Malleret, Constance (7 October 2023). "Lost 'holy grail' film of life in Brazil's Amazon 100 years ago resurfaces". The Guardian. "but by 1931 all traces of it had vanished." "However, a negative copy of an older, now disintegrated nitrate print of the film survived at the Národní filmový archiv, in Prague, where it had been miscatalogued as a US production from around 1925."
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: I'm not sure if the pictured frame is necessary or passes WP:DYKIMG on relevancy. The hook could be shortened or rewritten, if possible.
    Created by Cathodography (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Cattos💭 22:18, 29 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

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    Jack Hobbs (publisher)

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    Moved to mainspace by Launchballer (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 274 past nominations.

    Launchballer 20:54, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Salt water aspiration syndrome

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    Beluga whale
    Beluga whale
    Improved to Good Article status by Strange Orange (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    — Strange Orange 13:53, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Sign (Autechre album)

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    • ... that Autechre used something called "the system" during the composition of Sign?
    Improved to Good Article status by Rambley (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Rambley (talk) 09:33, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Lois Riess

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    [[File:|140px|CAPTION TEXT GOES HERE ]]
    CAPTION TEXT GOES HERE
    • ... that Lois Riess killed a woman named Pamela Sellers Hutchinson and assumed her identity without undergoing surgery.?
    • Reviewed:
    • Comment: This is my first DYK submission, and I’m not entirely sure how the process works. However, after doing some reading, I decided to give it a try.
    Created by Afrowriter (talk). Number of QPQs required: 0. Nominator has fewer than 5 past nominations.

    Afro 📢Talk! 05:05, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Norse Peak

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    Burned trees on the west slopes of Norse Peak
    Burned trees on the west slopes of Norse Peak
    Created by Buidhe (talk). Number of QPQs required: 1. Nominator has 255 past nominations.

    (t · c) buidhe 03:04, 30 January 2025 (UTC).[reply]

    Special occasion holding area

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    See also: WP:SOHA

    The holding area is near the top of the Approved page. Please only place approved templates there; do not place them below.

    Do not nominate articles in this section—nominate all articles in the nominations section above, under the date on which the article was created or moved to mainspace, or the expansion began; indicate in the nomination any request for a specially timed appearance on the main page.
    Note: Articles intended to be held for special occasion dates should be nominated within seven days of creation, start of expansion, or promotion to Good Article status. The nomination should be made at least one week prior to the occasion date, to allow time for reviews and promotions through the prep and queue sets, but not more than six weeks in advance. The proposed occasion must be deemed sufficiently special by reviewers. The timeline limitations, including the six week maximum, may be waived by consensus, if a request is made at WT:DYK, but requests are not always successful. Discussion clarifying the hold criteria can be found here: Hold criteria; discussion setting the six week limit can be found here: Six week limit.
    April Fools' Day hooks are exempted from the timeline limit; see Wikipedia:April Fool's Main Page/Did You Know.
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